Upcoming changes to benefits

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  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,336 Championing
    edited March 12

    you've got it exactly right. @vulcan

    We've seen all this before they put their toxic bile out in the Media and test the water,. knowing very well by announcing evil things that they have no intention of doing, so that when th genuine plans emerge they claim falsely they care and have listened and everyone is so busy breathing a sigh of relief they don't scrutinise the slightly less vile plans which are still bad enough.

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,336 Championing

    hugs my dear friend @judie

  • apples
    apples Online Community Member Posts: 467 Empowering
  • stump1
    stump1 Online Community Member Posts: 7 Listener

    Self employed status?
    im self employed but signed off unfit for work LCWRA group plus full pip on mobility standard daily care side. I’m a leg amputee 7 month ago without currently a prosthetic. My stump won’t heal properly. If I can’t walk I cant carry out my trade. What benefits will I expect to be cut?

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 150 Empowering

    I found this from benefits and work's forum, someone posted it in the comments. Notice how Labour keep leaking figures to the press? Their PR department really are out of touch.

    "Peston programme from last night. There were some "leaked figures" on there, and I'm going to try to explain them as best as I can. According to the programme, the £810 that we receive for LCWRA UC would go down to either £737 or £664. That's a potential loss of either £73 or £143 a month, depending on which amount they go for. Nobody wants to lose £143 a month, of course, but that appears to be the worst case figure. However, it WOULD also mean that there would be a modest increase for those on LCW and basic rate - either £32 or £63 a month.

    NB: Peston talked of 25% and 50% "redistribution." This is not the same as 25% and 50% cuts. For those interested in percentage cuts, they would be 9% of the total of £810 for being in LCWRA or 17%.

    As for PIP, the show suggested that it wouldn't increase with inflation this year, and they would bring in a new set of descriptors with the aim to remove 620,000 people from PIP - out of a current total of 5 million - by the end of the parliament. That's a reduction of 12% of claimants."

  • Autistic_Superpower
    Autistic_Superpower Online Community Member Posts: 20 Contributor

    So basically the ones who are fit to do some work get rewarded for it, and the ones who physically can’t are kicked in the teeth?

    I caught long covid as a result of negligence / incompetence from the previous government, to go along with my autism - Before, I had the mental energy to cope with my autistic problems but now the long covid has stole that from me, so everything takes twice as much effort even when I am ok.


    The long covid team has been disbanded now as there is no budget from April onwards for it, I just feel invisible and forgotten. I’ve attempted suicide numerous times before over my health, is there any point going on?

  • stressed76
    stressed76 Online Community Member Posts: 70 Empowering

    Ok i might be getting things mixed up but didn't the last time they changed descriptors on something they lost a court case & had to pay back a load of money or am i mixing that with something else?

    Akso why do i feel the descriptors will be aimed at mental health

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,383 Trailblazing

    None of us know what the descriptors will be aimed at until we get official confirmation.

    Until then it is speculation.

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,336 Championing
    edited March 12

    It seems from @Zipz post above we are on "The Yawn Cycle" as I call ot and have spoken about Many times here before.

    it's basically a constant repetitive and predictable cycle that happens everytime something controversial is planned.

    Plans announced... backlash... watered down and or court losses.. end result absolutely nothing actually changes.

    The difference this time which Is new is the backlash has started BEFORE the green paper which suggests many headaches for labour during every stage of legislation , on which in the end they'll have no choice but to take 2 paracetamol and suck it up.

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 150 Empowering

    Thing is they can't bar people with mental illnesses to claim incapacity benefits, I think it will be illegal to do so and ironically Labour brought forward the Equality Act 2010 before the Tories passed it.

    It says it on the government's own website.

    "A mental health condition is considered a disability if it has a long-term effect on your normal day-to-day activity. This is defined under the Equality Act 2010.

    Your condition is ‘long term’ if it lasts, or is likely to last, 12 months.

    ‘Normal day-to-day activity’ is defined as something you do regularly in a normal day. This includes things like using a computer, working set times or interacting with people."

    All they can do is further scrutinize as in more evidence, most likely talking to our GP discussing length of issue, whether the issue can be recoverable.

  • stressed76
    stressed76 Online Community Member Posts: 70 Empowering
  • Stellar
    Stellar Online Community Member Posts: 209 Empowering

    Conservative politicians of all stripes (and Labour is run by Tories at this point) have used the Conservative press as a testing ground to guage public backlash to their plans for a long time. These aren't leaks. They're calculated political moves with their political friends.

    They've done this with other policies (ie. Brexit, anti-trans hatred, anti-protest laws, Partygate). They'll do it again.

    These claims they may "water down" these plans are also part of their strategy. It's entirely possible that these leaks are made up to quell public concern, so people don't think their plans to kill disabled people won't be as bad.

    Still, if these cuts do go ahead, disabled people and their allies (who can) need to take to the streets consistently to oppose these cuts. This is how disabled people, alongside all other marginalised groups, got legal protections in the first place.

    Responding to consultations, signing petitions and writing letters to MPs is worse than nothing at this point.

  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 883 Championing
    edited March 12

    https://inews.co.uk/news/worked-dwp-labour-plan-benefit-claimants-doomed-3580047

    Readable if read via private browser tab

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/25002239.keir-starmer-defends-substantial-dwp-welfare-cuts-pmqs/

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 779 Trailblazing

    What about ECHR, can't someone contact them. It's our human rights that's being compromise here, they help criminals human rights but what about us

  • unsure65
    unsure65 Online Community Member Posts: 37 Contributor

    They would be better off going back to the original payments of £686. Then no one overall loses out and everyone bar the people on SDP wont lose anymore.

    They cause this bloody mess why on earth month people just to whip it away.

  • colejames
    colejames Online Community Member Posts: 34 Empowering

    I wonder if anyone is in a similar situation to me? I applied for PIP in June of last year as I was in the midst of a mental health crisis. I had my telephone interview in October and received a letter on the 25th October to let me know that they had all the information that they needed and I should hear something in seven to eight weeks. Christmas and New Year came and went and the charity which is supporting me advised me to give the PIP team a call.

    I rang and spoke to a really helpful man who told me that they did not have some information following the phone interview and so there had been a delay but they now had the information that they needed and it was with the team who made the decisions and I should have a response within four to five weeks. That period has come and gone but I didn't want to rock the boat so I waited until today to call them.

    Today I was told that they had needed more information and were waiting for information that they had requested from my doctors surgery. I asked if I should ring my doctors and see what was causing the hold up but was told not to. If they hadn't had a response by the 26th March it would go to a team which look at claims which are overdue for consideration so I should hear something after then. Now considering all the rumours about PIP, I find myself wondering if anyone else is experiencing the same thing and if this linked to the upcoming changes to disability benefits or if I am just, as usual, the unlucky one in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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