Upcoming changes to benefits

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  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 95 Empowering

    Can anyone tell me what an impact assessment is, I read it somewhere that Liz Kendall hasn't done one on these benefit cuts to sick/disabled(if it's true) ?

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,351 Trailblazing

    Its just my opinion but I don't think they will reduce existing awards but they are very likely to reduce further claims and make it much harder to qualify.

    Only time will tell.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,514 Championing

    I don't believe any of this is Keir Starmer's fault but IDS' and his DWP cronies on Labour's front bench.

    I think we are simply playing into IDS' hands. He set the wheels in motion with his rotten 2012 Welfare Reform Act then followed that up with the 2016 Welfare Reform and WORK Act.

    😞

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,198 Championing

    Laughable of wasn't true this has been tried so many times over the years change wording all governments tried it but didn't announce it and do what thier doing maybe I'm wrong?

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,198 Championing
  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,514 Championing

    I'm not sure he knows exactly how Timms, Reeves etc got those measures through Parliament in 2015 but once he does, he may well resign being one of the few truly honourable gentlemen in that House.

    Then we can vote in the Tories (the ones who got us into this mess) if that's really what people preferred…

    Right now, I think he's the most qualified MP to be dealing with Heads of State around the world while he delegates fiscal responsibility to his Ministers.

  • Stellar
    Stellar Online Community Member Posts: 203 Empowering
    edited March 14

    Dear oh dear.

    Keir Starmer is by far one of the least honourable people in Parliament. {comment removed by moderator - uncivil}. Those are some of the many reasons many consider him a Tory.

    Even entertaining the prospect of killing more disabled people via "reforms" (even through his silence) shows how incapable he is of delivering anything other than a Reform Uk landslide in 2029.

  • Morinas
    Morinas Online Community Member Posts: 4 Connected

    I've copied this from another post I made:

    Restricting PIP impacts more than just our income

    In this argument about the govs plans to restrict PIP and reduce money for disabled people, there is something I think that isn't being spoken about enough.

    Restricting the eligibility criteria from PIP impacts more than just our income. It impacts disabled people's ACCESS.

    PIP is used nationwide (and even internationally) as evidence of disability. A medical diagnosis hasn't been considered 'enough' for many years.

    Denying people PIP makes it harder for people to get their access needs or adjustment needs met.

    To get an Access Card, Disabled Persons Railcard, Disabily Cinema Card and to use disability access in places across the UK and even abroad, you require evidence of PIP (or adult DLA/AA).

    Being denied PIP doesn't stop us being disabled. Being denied PIP disables us more.

    It will financially cripple many of us but even more importantly, it will also restrict our access, prevent our carers being able to claim support for caring for us, and have such a large knock-on effect that is beyond simply the money we receive.

    For me it isn't just about the money. It about every area of my life.

    If I lost PIP, my carer could no longer afford to support me.

    If I lost PIP, I could no longer access an adapted vehicle.

    Both of these things means I would have to give up my job.

    If I lost PIP, I could no longer access many venues across the UK, I could not takea carer with me or use disabled access.

    If I lost PIP, I would lose my freedom.

    If I lost PIP, I would lose my life.

  • Community_Scope
    Community_Scope Posts: 1,693 Empowering

    Hi all.

    We understand this is a very tense and scary time for us all, but can we please remember to keep the language civil. Name calling is not needed.

    Thank you.

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 768 Trailblazing
    edited March 14

    Even before becoming PM, he was dishonest, he told Labour party members he would carry on Corbyn's plans to get voted in as leader, and then did a complete 180, and on top of that he publically shamed Corbyn multiple times. He isnt fit to even tie Corbyn's shoe laces.

    Since then he has been carrying out a purge of MPs who wont follow his dictatorship.

    Horrible man.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,514 Championing

    Stellar, do you have any idea what the 2015 welfare reforms were about?

    Keir Starmer, as a newly elected MP, had nothing to do with those cuts and the impact they would have on claimants in 2025. These are not new plans! The disabled community stopped paying attention because they didn't appear to affect LCWRA but they were always going to!

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 768 Trailblazing
    edited March 14

    You mean these plans?

    The Government is committed to supporting disabled people to lead independent and
    active lives. The Personal Independence Payment has replaced Disability Living
    Allowance for working age claimants (16-64). Personal Independence Payment is
    based on an assessment of individual needs and aims to make sure financial support
    is targeted at those who face the greatest challenges to living independently.
    We are also
    committed to offering unconditional support to those who are severely
    disabled and cannot work.

    PIP made it harder in some cases to qualify, but also made it easier in other areas, my descriptors I get for PIP daily living didnt even exist on DLA. Pip also took focus away from diagnosis which is a good thing, as many people dont have a diagnosis or incorrect diagnosis.

    There was also some later reform, where PIP was left alone completely even though by then it was evident PIP was not meeting spending expectations. The Tories also stopped the intense reassessments on ESA (introduced by Labour) and made it easier to get LCWRA, even during IDS reign, there were eligibility tweaks being signed off by his deputy to allow more people to qualify for LCWRA. The reform proposed by Mel Stride was aiming to reverse most of the tweaks that happened during the Tories reign to make it as harsh as was originally designed by Labour.

    I would say Green/LibDems/Corbyn Labour > Moderate Tories (from May up until Boris stood down) > Hard right Tory/Keir Labour

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,514 Championing

    Start with IDS' 2012 Welfare Reform Act and compare that with the 2009 WRA.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,514 Championing
    edited March 14

    No, the Tories didn't stop anything but ramped up their persecution of sick and disabled claimants through their 2012 Welfare Reform Act. The 2016 reforms to the WCA process were delayed by the calamitous UC Programme and the pandemic not compassion.

    In 2011, IDS distorted the qualifying criteria of the 2008 ESA regulations but we failed to notice (most of us)

    😞

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 768 Trailblazing
    edited March 14

    Even Jeremy Hunt increased LHA after listening to the rowntree foundation. He chose that over buffing UC taper rate for people in employment. One of Labour's first actions, frozen again. Remember Labour were promising to be on the side of renters. If Sunak left LHA frozen, and same with Hunt later, I think my entire TP would have been absorbed on rent costs.
    The period of very high inflation, was honoured for all state benefits. Now LCWRA is to be reduced, and PIP frozen.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,514 Championing
    edited March 14

    Mr Timms signed off the WCA in March 2008. The same Mr Timms knew exactly what the 2015 reforms would mean for sick and disabled people in the future.

    IDS could not have got away with his plans without Labour's support back then. They are all in this together and desperately don't want the facts to come out!

    That's where John McDonnell and Ellen Clifford come in - they will not let this be buried while scary announcements of 'new' plans to harass sick and disabled claimants are all over the media and holding our attention.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,732 Empowering

    I'm scared to death. Imagine someone in a well paid job being told they were going to lose, say, £100 per month. There'd be Hell to pay.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,732 Empowering
    edited March 14
  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,732 Empowering
    edited March 14

    @secretsquirrel1 According to Bloomberg Cabinet ministers were objecting to cuts in "welfare and spending". The ministers were probably seeking reprieves from Reeves hacking expenditure in their own departments…. rather than just DWP spending. Bloomberg reads:

    "More than half of Prime Minister Keir Starmer’s cabinet have urged his chancellor, Rachel Reeves, to rethink her plans to scale back welfare and spending, in an extraordinary sign of growing concern within the governing Labour Party over the scale of looming cuts.

    The ministers voiced their concerns at a cabinet meeting on Tuesday that Starmer allowed to run long because of the strength of feeling, according to people familiar with the matter who requested anonymity disclosing confidential discussions. Unusually, almost every minister — 27 attend cabinet — spoke, with many expressing disquiet about controversial welfare cuts due to be announced next week, spending reductions expected later in the year and the fiscal straitjacket posed by Reeves’ self-imposed budgetary rules."