Upcoming changes to benefits

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  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,932 Pioneering

    About cutting LCRWA "extra":

    https://neweconomics.org/2025/03/government-is-concealing-the-true-scale-of-benefit-cuts-for-ill-and-disabled-people

  • travis50
    travis50 Online Community Member Posts: 48 Empowering

    Well, it took almost 5 years for them to move everyone over from ESA to UC. And of course this comes as no coincidence they are making these steps once everyone has moved over. I don't think everyone will be moved over until the end of this year, so I would assume that the cuts will come into effect from Spring 2026. I hope I'm wrong and it's longer of course.

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 952 Pioneering

    I just watched Starmer live press conference re Ukraine. A reporter from Politico threw in a question re PIP, can't remember what is was now sorry but interesting that it's at the forefront of his mind during such a press conference, good on him. Can't remember his name sorry. Starmer just gave his usual stock standard reply which I can't remember that either 🙄 probably because it was not memorable 🤔

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 902 Championing
    edited March 15

    I did some maths, based on the following assumptions, my situation in 4 years time.
    TP has eroded on UC so SDP gone.
    25% reduction on LCWRA component. (the lowest amount, best case being considered)
    Loss of PIP, as I believe my daily living descriptors will no longer be there.
    LHA remains frozen.
    My rent doesnt increase (I can wish)

    It is quite a swing, which shows how excessive it all is, I came up with a £360 short fall each month, this is with no subscription services, netflix etc, social tariff broadband, no deliveroo, just eats etc., no new clothes, furniture, or other household stuff, still buying food shopping at a level to avoid malnutrition but no treats. If keep PIP mobility, its not as bad but still a shortfall. So absolute poverty. The memories are coming back of when my sister had to do food shopping for me out of her own pocket.

    I itemised all expenses and emailed to my MP, but my MP is involved in the changes and has never replied to a DWP policy related email.

    Things like discretionary help with housing costs are not practical, they require you to already be in arrears, which means you as good as evicted already.

    I think even keeping the PIP I had before it got increased, and losing TP, so no cuts, I actually would be close to break even. So even what seems like not a huge thing on its own like losing SDP is noticeable. I dont know how people without PIP (just LCWRA) have been managing.

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 902 Championing
    edited March 15

    Yeah timing is important, waiting until its new legislation is too late. I think once its clearer whats happening, if it comes out in the green paper I might be in the nothing to lose category and be prepared to be a plaintiff. If I cant live anymore independently thats it for me.
    What we have to bear in mind here is this policy change has cross party support, I also think the house of lords in general support it as well, when things get watered down is usually when there is enough opposition to risk losing a vote. But in this case both Labour and the Tories will be like for like on it. The Tories might possibly oppose the PIP freeze but that would be it. But even if they do remember Labour has a behemoth of a majority and the PIP freeze is like the icing on the cake, it isnt the filling.

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 163 Empowering

    We'll just have to wait and see how we will be affected. The devil's in the detail.

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 902 Championing
    edited March 15

    I think the freeze being unfrozen if that satisfies the Labour MP's they have been duped, the LCWRA deduction and the descriptor changes are the nastiest part of the changes. My expectation is that was there to provide a short term benefit for the OBR, as the PIP eligibility changes will take multiple years to filter through, and once the proper cuts via eligibility have progressed enough PIP would be unfrozen.
    It feels like when we had the PIP consultation everyone was talking about vouchers (likely only put there as a distraction) instead of all the eligibility proposals.

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 902 Championing
    edited March 15

    Thats my assumption as well, if they do it in 2025, then people not yet moved would get TP protection for multiple years. 2026 would save more money.

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 194 Pioneering

    I thought Labour would be the least worst compared to the Tories or Reform, I was wrong. Starmer and Co have lost the plot and clearly don't care. On this subject they make Reform look moderate.

    There's method to Labour's madness if you look at the bill flying under the radar, the Euthanasia bill which is being watered down by the way.

    I will be surprised if Labour win the next election, at worst a coalition with the lib dems.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 905 Championing

    Have they said that autism won't feature in pip anymore. I get enhanced for mine .

  • Moorgater
    Moorgater Online Community Member Posts: 65 Empowering

    I

    If the poorest constituencies in the country abandon them, Labour would be lucky to survive let alone win. This isn't just cruel and vindictive, it's electoral suicide.

  • Maggie37
    Maggie37 Online Community Member Posts: 72 Empowering

    Thanks for this.. it dovetails with the amounts that the Joseph Rowntree foundation speculated although they did suggest it could be cut more gradually.Even over years (by28/29/30 )Not everyone on LCWRA is on PIP so difficult to understand how they’d cope. I think they’ll attempt a PIP freeze but won’t cut it.

    My question is how they could even begin to do this quickly.. it would be chaos for families, impact rents,halt mobility, never mind food and essentials. Does anyone know how Reeves is thinking she can ‘fast forward’ changes to LCWRA, or is she on a hiding to nothing?

  • Moorgater
    Moorgater Online Community Member Posts: 65 Empowering
    edited March 15

    I don't think they 'think' much at all. Hence the Green paper delay last week and the bizarre leak to The Times today. None of this seems even slightly thought through. Suspect that RR will actually end up implementing the tax rises she is so desperately trying to avoid and, quite possibly, become 'our first female ex-chancellor' sometime after that.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 905 Championing

    So I've just read as well that the house of Lords econmic committee told kendell to cut welfare as its a priority. How dare they. They get £300 a day for doing nothing. Just sitting going to sleep.

  • unsure65
    unsure65 Online Community Member Posts: 42 Contributor

    A 25% reduction on LCWRA component, is still higher than the old income related ESA. In fact they could get away with 45% cut and alot of people would be back to where we started. What I don't understand is why push though this change over if they were going to take the money back?

  • unsure65
    unsure65 Online Community Member Posts: 42 Contributor

    It should be pointed out, come 21st March All remaining DLA claim in Scotland will be moved to new Scottish DLA. This is around 25'000 under the age of 60. These people will never be retested again and Scottish Government are not going to waste the money getting the same results.

    Just to point out, ADP is just as bad as pip, the only big difference is the ADP office staff goes looking for your evidence, the backlog is awful.

  • evelyncourtney
    evelyncourtney Online Community Member Posts: 104 Empowering

    I’ve decided I’m going to email every MP in Scotland (all 57 of them.) Maybe pointless, but if even one pro-mass murder pro-cuts politician reads it and thinks about it, that’s enough.

    I’ve written out one and I’m just going to copy it to all. I went VERY personal in it and talked about a lot of my difficulties, but I’m using a burner email of course. I hope that hearing someone’s personal experience makes them think a bit. I don’t expect responses but I feel like I HAVE to do something.

    Is the Trussell Trust petition the main one? I’m going to post it all over Facebook and Instagram and urge everyone I know to sign and share it.

  • Maggie37
    Maggie37 Online Community Member Posts: 72 Empowering

    Thanks.. I transferred from PIP to ADP last year, I’m on 5 year award now ? It did take ages, huge backlog as you say.. but I liked that they went through my medical notes, spoke to Rheumatologist, Psychologist etc.. my points actually went up because it was done with fine tooth comb. The wait was scary but the assessment was accurate in the extreme.

  • Fuji
    Fuji Online Community Member Posts: 108 Empowering

    In the times article, it says this:

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/one-million-britons-disability-benefits-cut-s5kj0z7fc

    "However, Tom Pollard of the New Economics Foundation think tank said: “There has been concern within government that the rise in the PIP caseload is being driven in part by more people claiming for less severe mental health problems and neurodevelopmental conditions like autism and ADHD. It therefore seems likely that any changes to the assessment criteria to reduce the number of new claims would target this group.”

    I also saw another article the other day that said PIP would stop for autism and ADHD.

    The gov seems to be targeting invisible disabilities. Seems like they think mental health and neurodevelopmental aren't disabilities… Good luck to them being taken to court over that. They can't just divide us all.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 674 Championing

    I just read in the daily mail that MPs who were called into number 10 to discuss the cuts weren’t told any actual details. So how is The times able to? I saw on YouTube claims that MH and autism adhd were to be banned and certain descriptors also banned. Such as cooking washing . The times state that you’ll need 4 points in one descriptor plus 4-8 extra points. So all reports different. I know the daily mail isn’t reputable but I thought the times was .

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