Upcoming changes to benefits

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  • Maggie37
    Maggie37 Online Community Member Posts: 79 Empowering

    Here’s John Mac’s piece in the Guardian.. there’s also piece in I paper based on IDS’s thoughts but I can’t get through paywall🤔

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/15/benefit-cuts-labour-mps-disabled-sick

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 1,314 Championing

    Has anyone told reeves that she will blood on her hands if these cuts are implemented. That people won't be able to cope anymore. And starmer, although he is like a dictator from the 1930s , he wouldn't care

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 3,119 Championing

    It really bugs me that whilst the government wants to freeze PIP - State Pensions are still increasing by 4.1% per year (and have been for several years and will continue to rise) - so they see the Elderly as much more important than disabled people.

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 3,119 Championing

    @Nightcity you too, I really hope your mum is on the mend 🙏. The PIP people almost made me completely lose the plot in Sept 23 totally giving me the runaround and lying on their report I ended up ringing the coroner's office ranting and they sent the police to me (like a welfare check really). But the police coming probably saved my life, i won't give detail but the DWP /PIP and my former boss tipped me right over an edge. The police were very kind but how embarrassing. It is very scary as I know I won't agree commitments for say jobseekers if combined/attached to LCWRA or PIP as I've no intention of even considering working until my bowel problems are fixed until they are I can't go anywhere and they can all go to hell basically. I spoke to Samaritans this morning (not just re all this thats going on), when going through stuff he said you sound like you've really got a fighting spirit and I'm glad I rang them and they reminded me of that. I'm upset because I don't feel my shoulders are very broad at the moment and it all just weighs very heavily when you're unwell at the same time. Just recovering from diverticulitis again after having double pneumonia for 7 wks, it's never ending. I've not even wrote letters yet I'm going to try and do them tomorrow and send a lot of emails. Take good care everybody ❤️ I thank God or whoever for Scope x

  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 894 Championing
    edited March 2025

    finally the media (including far right) report on the worst political timing since partygate (and the ‘perfect storm’ many of the disabled had feared for months now)

    Hope the general public can see the worst case scenario of ‘2+2’ for themselves now (anyone can become disabled at any time - some cruel individuals in society could find their words come back to bite them if life serves them a ‘curveball’)

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/welfare-cuts-will-push-disabled-people-to-end-their-lives-ptgbf75df

    If the woman wasn’t already a dame I’d say dame her again - TGT is a huge asset to the disabled community 💖

  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 336 Empowering
  • michael57
    michael57 Online Community Member Posts: 1,863 Championing

    that could well be that some people on a pension pay tax after working for 40 or 50 plus years and each year it puts more of them into the paying tax bracket helping the government balance the welfare costs for those that dont or who have never for whatever reason

  • Stellar
    Stellar Online Community Member Posts: 370 Pioneering

    Saw this YouTube video this morning from Richard Murphy who has some great points. Because of AI, there will be a huge jobs crisis in the UK, that will affect everyone.

    Disabled people have no chance of finding jobs when they're competing with tens of thousands of abled people let go because of AI.

    Instead, more abled people will be trapped on UC due to being unable to find work through no fault of their own (and hence also become disabled due to por mental health).

    They will be stuck at home living the life of the disabled benefit claimants many of them demonised for years thanks to regurgitating right wing **** in the press, and realise they were lied to, and that being disabled and out of work sucks.

    These ableds wont tolerate it, and the right wing narratives that all people on benefits are scroungers and its their fault will be shattered forever thanks to lived expereince.

    All the more reason why these plans to murder more disabled people via benefits cuts will never go ahead.

    Labour is forcing people into work when AI’s eliminating jobs

  • pinkrose
    pinkrose Online Community Member Posts: 170 Empowering

    Oh kaliwax my heart broke reading this.

    Please know these changes aren't set in stone yet and will probably be watered down and take a long time to come into effect.

  • Stellar
    Stellar Online Community Member Posts: 370 Pioneering

    So sorry you've had such awful experiences Fiji.

    Sadly a lot of disabled people (incuding autistic people) go self-employed because that's the only way we can get accommodations. Employers won't do them, the laws are toothless and unfit for purpose, so we have to do it ourselves.

    UC is **** for self-employment too. It's not designed to help people who cannot fit into the kinds of minimum wage, "unskilled" work employers provide. Nothing for remote wok too. If you're disabled and going down the self employment or remote work paths, you're on your own too.

    The best thing UC can do for most disabled people is to just bloody leave us alone. If we can work and want your help, great. If we can't, just bloody give us our money and leave us alone.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 706 Championing

    There are some very interesting discussions from our folks in this thread … I have a daft question. Will all these be collectively reach the parliament through Scope—Apologies in advance if this question has been asked previously

  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 894 Championing

    unless you intend to do so in martyr fashion (and I hope everyone on this forum see’s their individual life’s as having value and everyone has the right to survive and have quality of life (might make an exception for the truly evil ppl in the world))

    Those in charge of this labour government would find it very convenient to their plans (the more disabled ppl that give up and accept gov proposals as ‘locked in fate’ the easier it will be for the gov to achieve their fully objective)

    At the end of the day, in the words of Steve Roger’s - “I don’t like bullies” - and that may be what this green paper represents of its authors

    And I still believe in karma (though it’s been overdue for years)

  • Maggie37
    Maggie37 Online Community Member Posts: 79 Empowering

    Thanks so much for this. I saw Liz Kendall as very much a player in all of this but John Mc Donnell lays the blame solely at Reeves door? The BBC verify article yesterday claimed Reeves is literally worshipping at the altar of the OBR.. I’ll email cross party tomorrow methinks.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 4,197 Championing

    About cutting LCRWA "extra":

    https://neweconomics.org/2025/03/government-is-concealing-the-true-scale-of-benefit-cuts-for-ill-and-disabled-people

  • travis50
    travis50 Online Community Member Posts: 48 Empowering

    Well, it took almost 5 years for them to move everyone over from ESA to UC. And of course this comes as no coincidence they are making these steps once everyone has moved over. I don't think everyone will be moved over until the end of this year, so I would assume that the cuts will come into effect from Spring 2026. I hope I'm wrong and it's longer of course.

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 3,119 Championing

    I just watched Starmer live press conference re Ukraine. A reporter from Politico threw in a question re PIP, can't remember what is was now sorry but interesting that it's at the forefront of his mind during such a press conference, good on him. Can't remember his name sorry. Starmer just gave his usual stock standard reply which I can't remember that either 🙄 probably because it was not memorable 🤔

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 1,018 Championing
    edited March 2025

    I did some maths, based on the following assumptions, my situation in 4 years time.
    TP has eroded on UC so SDP gone.
    25% reduction on LCWRA component. (the lowest amount, best case being considered)
    Loss of PIP, as I believe my daily living descriptors will no longer be there.
    LHA remains frozen.
    My rent doesnt increase (I can wish)

    It is quite a swing, which shows how excessive it all is, I came up with a £360 short fall each month, this is with no subscription services, netflix etc, social tariff broadband, no deliveroo, just eats etc., no new clothes, furniture, or other household stuff, still buying food shopping at a level to avoid malnutrition but no treats. If keep PIP mobility, its not as bad but still a shortfall. So absolute poverty. The memories are coming back of when my sister had to do food shopping for me out of her own pocket.

    I itemised all expenses and emailed to my MP, but my MP is involved in the changes and has never replied to a DWP policy related email.

    Things like discretionary help with housing costs are not practical, they require you to already be in arrears, which means you as good as evicted already.

    I think even keeping the PIP I had before it got increased, and losing TP, so no cuts, I actually would be close to break even. So even what seems like not a huge thing on its own like losing SDP is noticeable. I dont know how people without PIP (just LCWRA) have been managing.

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 1,018 Championing
    edited March 2025

    Yeah timing is important, waiting until its new legislation is too late. I think once its clearer whats happening, if it comes out in the green paper I might be in the nothing to lose category and be prepared to be a plaintiff. If I cant live anymore independently thats it for me.
    What we have to bear in mind here is this policy change has cross party support, I also think the house of lords in general support it as well, when things get watered down is usually when there is enough opposition to risk losing a vote. But in this case both Labour and the Tories will be like for like on it. The Tories might possibly oppose the PIP freeze but that would be it. But even if they do remember Labour has a behemoth of a majority and the PIP freeze is like the icing on the cake, it isnt the filling.

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 411 Pioneering

    We'll just have to wait and see how we will be affected. The devil's in the detail.

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