Upcoming changes to benefits
Comments
-
I believe Powell is opposed to the cuts also. Plus, it seems Streeting and Rayner both voiced concerns about this. As those two are the ones who most obviously want Starmer's job, it seems likely they feel opposition to this is either a) already popular with other MPs or b) soon will be popular when the inevitable car crash happens and the polls head south.
2 -
Rachel needs to go back to the office , those phones won’t answer themselves
2 -
Worth a read…
https://www.politico.eu/article/freeze-on-pip-disability-benefit-likely-to-be-dropped-after-labour-backlash/
1 -
The thing is we do know that a large amount of extra claimants have claimed especially for PIP since 2019 but I suspect most are people like my Mother and Father both late sixties both experiencing health problems in the past 8 years or so and with pushing the retirement age back you will have many more people in this age group who through no fault of their own are forced to claim benefits.
My parents have never claimed a penny, have paid into the system their whole lives my Dad left school at 15 and has worked manual jobs his whole life and paid in for almost 50 years he had to claim at 63 for PIP due to a huge hernia in his groin, he was put on a waiting list and it took 18 months for his treatment. I think many people are in his situation, the NHS has too much pressure on its services so people who can be fixed through an operation are being forced to claim benefits whilst enduring a very long wait for treatment, as my Dad says had he been seen quickly he could have returned to work after recovery.
They are noth now receiving state pension my Dads health is now good so he doesn't need attendance allowance and my Mums issues are also now sorted so she also just gets State pension, she is also a Waspi and disgusted with the treatment they have received but that is another discussion.
The point I am making is they are not looking in depth at why there has been such a large increase in claims.
I accept that there is an issue with 18-30 year olds being out of the workforce and that some of it is down to mental health but again there is not the support available for them to get better, the GP shoves anti depressants at them and that is it, the waiting list to talk to somebody is months long, which makes the depression and anxiety even worse. The jobs are not available for unskilled workers either, we have always had a working class in the UK and use to have well paying jobs available but we have shipped all of our manufactoring abroad and wonder why depression and issues have developed for the poorest people in our country, they have no hope, no investment in a country which lets them down again and again.
We need well paying manual jobs to give people a chance to have a good standard of living, there is currently no way to get to the middle class for most people, it is a very depressing situation and is mirrored across western countries who have let the working classes of their countries down.
2 -
This makes more sense when you realise that these people largely don't know what they're doing. They are not evil masterminds but grotty careerists with little clue about the world around them. If you asked everyone who voted Labour last time out why they did so, none of them would answer with 'because I thought Tory plans for welfare and the NHS were insufficiently Right-wing'.
The only people in the country who didn't know that are currently in the cabinet.
And that's all you need to know.
3 -
I've decided to take a long break from the news for a while, thank god for google chrome extensions, plenty of extensions you can install that blocks any website you want. Should help me a little bit with my mental health.
7 -
As mentioned in the past what Labour are doing, briefing the media, trying to create false paradigms justifying devastating cuts ect is exactly like an abusive relationship, my late father used to do the same thing all the time, when you've been through this as I'm sure many have you pick up on it.
4 -
Take care, my friend.
1 -
they must have advisers , even Starmers a lawyer so he must think this won’t look good in court especially after Ellen Clifford won last time . And what they’re planning is worse than the Tory’s by the looks of things
0 -
Many of today’s retirees have contributed to the system for up to 50 years to secure their state pension. Those with full National Insurance contributions currently receive £221.20 per week (£884.80 every four weeks). This amount excludes them from additional means-tested benefits such as Pension Credit, Winter Fuel Payments, or the Warm Home Discount, as the government considers this income sufficient to live on. For many, the state pension is their sole source of income, as they do not have private pensions to supplement it and cannot access any further financial support from the government. Additionally, private pension holders are taxed on any private pension income exceeding their personal allowance, as @michael57 pointed out.
Unlike the state pension, which is contributions-based, PIP is a non-means-tested benefit designed to help cover the extra costs of living with a disability. In 2024/2025, PIP rates increased by 6.7%, whereas this year, they will rise by just 1.7%, compared to a 4.1% increase in the state pension. While the disparity in percentage increases may appear significant, it’s important to recognise that both benefits serve distinct purposes. Pensioners and disabled individuals face unique challenges, and their support systems should not be viewed as competing. Instead, each group deserves fair and appropriate assistance tailored to their specific needs.
2 -
It’s a disgrace what they are even thinking about doing to the PIP system.where does this leave DLA for children?Surely they can’t touch that either ?I worry for my 7 year old who has autism and selective mutism as his future going forward when’s he’s 16 looks very bleak if he has to try to love over to a system that would probably reject his claim!
1 -
They do. A man called Morgan McSweeney is Starmer and Co's guru. They seem to credit him with almost mystical powers. I will return to him in a later post when I have more time. But look him up. And tell me if you think he has any particular qualifications to set the direction of travel for UK governance.
0 -
“I've had a lot of worries in my life, most of which never happened.”
0 -
Hi guys , I'm new to this, so bear with me ! How are folk on here coping ? What distraction techniques are you coming up with this news of potential cuts and harder eligibility I know it's hard to think of anything else , I'm really worried as it looks like the eligibility for mental health is changing and it's going to be harder , I was raped, contracted HIV and I self harm and have bulimia, I have bad days and REALLY bad days , I'd be a liability for any employer, I'm honestly worried fir my future
2 -
I think everyone is worried i know my rent is gone up next month I'm getting a 10p pay rise on my welfare I am I'm 50 I have rt autism ADHD and COPD gas bill has gone up sky high next month this labour government has **** a lot of people off
0 -
I don’t know if it’s been discussed but the majority of disability benefits (at least 85%?) that gets paid out to claimants gets spend back in the uk economy (to shops and businesses that then pay uk ni and tax.
If the treasury cut £6billlion (I don’t know what that breaks down as yearly savings - £2billion prehaps) then it will get redirected somewhere else right?
we know that starmer wants to rise defense from 2.5% to 3% asap (the foreign aid cut is covering the 2.3% to 2.5% rise) which would cost an additional £15billion a year which seems like the most likely relocation.
The thing is I’m not sure if the defense budget pays back into the economy pound to pound the same way
There’s something very uncomfortable about taking money from disabled then using it towards further funding certain wars
it’s not a subject I’m well versed in but if huge amounts of the disabled community do end up having several thousand deducted from benefits awards each year surely it’s not unreasonable to ask reeves exactly where ever penny is being redirected (the treasury expenses doc in the spring statement could have those details I guess?)3 -
I think I read somewhere that Wes Streeting is on Laura Kuensberg tomorrow.
Can someone please tell me what msm means that I keep seeing on here?
0 -
MSM - main stream media
2 -
I read something from the new economic foundation (?) , I think it was posted up on this forum. It said their calculations add up to 7.5-9b by 2029 not counting the original £2b .
0 -
It comes under the heading 'low hanging fruit'. The government thought they could make savings here easily enough with little pushback and a lot of support. The NHS has failed many people currently claiming sickness benefits. Yet that institution currently spends the same £6bn every 12 days. And funding is set to rise. So take everything you hear about 'fiscal black holes' etc with a pinch of salt.
0
Categories
- All Categories
- 15.7K Start here and say hello!
- 7.4K Coffee lounge
- 104 Games den
- 1.7K People power
- 152 Announcements and information
- 24.9K Talk about life
- 6.1K Everyday life
- 486 Current affairs
- 2.5K Families and carers
- 891 Education and skills
- 2K Work
- 567 Money and bills
- 3.7K Housing and independent living
- 1.1K Transport and travel
- 634 Relationships
- 1.6K Mental health and wellbeing
- 2.5K Talk about your impairment
- 876 Rare, invisible, and undiagnosed conditions
- 936 Neurological impairments and pain
- 2.2K Cerebral Palsy Network
- 1.2K Autism and neurodiversity
- 41K Talk about your benefits
- 6.1K Employment and Support Allowance (ESA)
- 20.1K PIP, DLA, ADP and AA
- 8.9K Universal Credit (UC)
- 5.9K Benefits and income

