Upcoming changes to benefits

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  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 3,228 Championing
  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 894 Championing

    no your maths is exactly right

    Cutting lcwra award by 25% is more lucrative to the dwp than a pip freeze (though as I showed the saving for that improve with every consecutive year)

    However there’s one thing you haven’t stated

    (one thing I learnt this week - journalists and politicians suck at maths and statistics)

    A 1 year pip freeze would cost each claimant £3.50 a week (and it’s technically not reducing award amount)

    Cutting 25% from the lcwra would cost each claimant about £20 a week (and as I said a cut looks much worse on paper then a freeze)


    this is from the guardian polities live text

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    ”a load shared is a load halved”

    The quickest and ‘fairest’ way for the treasury to get ‘quick money’ from incapacity benefits is a lcwra and/or pip freeze (if starmer/reeves/kendalls hadn’t verbally tried to throw the whole disabled community there may have been an option for the dwp via the uc journal to ask if those with any transactional protection would be open to a voluntary reduction of £10 to £50 a month dependant on what the claimant could of spared - I would of been open to it if the dwp were showing real signs of listening and working with disabled but I don’t feel inclined to help fill another one of labour leadership’s black hole and not really open to compromise until the disabled community get an apology from Kendall/reeves/starmer/dwp about (what is essentially) bullying, smearing and scapegoating this community has had to endure from minister quotes to the constant media pieces that gov insiders are very obviously feeding the far right papers)

    Fair welfare reforms that benefits not just the treasury financially longterm but also strengthens the financial safety net for disabled ppl is possible (and I truly believe that) but it’s going to take time, patience and open mindedness on the govs part (and politicians not seeing threatening disabled ppl lives as a reasonable cost for using welfare cuts as a ATM - as the ‘easy’ solution to their problems)

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing
  • Stellar
    Stellar Online Community Member Posts: 370 Pioneering

    The law dosen't matter if those in charge won't respect it. Look at what Donald Trump is doing in the US.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I think everyone has been having awards extended for quite some time due to the back log . I wouldn’t worry as nothing new has changed yet and I would assume they have to score according to the form you’ve already filled in . Mines due early next year so I should get a form any time soon. Unless any reforms are passed super quick I would think my review will be the same as last time. I’m no expert but just my opinion . I’m sure there will be ppl on here with more knowledge than me .

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 4,204 Championing

    Thank you. The more extreme the proposals the longer it will take for any changes to come about.

  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 894 Championing

    Ibs is a b***h at the best of times - stress related ibs takes of whole other toll

    So many of the public think mental health such as anxiety, stress and depression is all in one’s head and to toughen up

    But for some with mental health issues it can get so bad it manifests/triggers into many possible physical health conditions (some of which are painful & uncomfortable)

    On paper it may be easy for some people to fake an invisible MH condition - but the physical knock on effects and ‘marks’ of having serious MH illnesses is a whole different story

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I agree , I would have rather they froze payments for pip and lcwra then they have them just take the benefits away . According to A different bias on YouTube they were planning on using the savings from stopping fraud to fill the black hole whatever that is . It seems like Starmer having no clue how to run the country decided to leave the disabled destitute to add to the defence budget , especially as in msm he was getting better press . Just my opinion for what it’s worth.

  • Maggie37
    Maggie37 Online Community Member Posts: 79 Empowering

    Sorry you’re feeling this way but I think it just means what it says.. they’re extending your award to gather more information. They won’t cut your money at all. Last year I had same wording sent.. a kind of’hold’ letter. It’s often because they’re experiencing a backlog of claims as well? The key to focus on in’extending your award’.. it’s going to continue until March 2026 for sure. Hope this helps they do send out these extension letters regularly.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    yes but Starmer is all for the echr so if it went that high would he go against their ruling ? He couldn’t then refuse to go against them for other rulings so easily.

  • Jenwren
    Jenwren Online Community Member Posts: 104 Empowering

    That is definately true and terrifying, but I think the one difference is (hopefully) an important one. Stammer is a former lawyer, he will very much want to - at least on the surface - project that he is very much obeying and upholding the law, becuase it's important to his labour branding and an attack line they can use on the Tories constantly (although this is less important with their majority). Yes Stammer will duck and dive and skirt around things - but if (and I really hope they do) charities and organisations take the govt to court (I'm thinking Disabilities At 2010?) it won't look good for Stammer personally since he likes to claim he upholds the law. The only hope is Stammer will want to avoid this. Part of this is about how Strammer wants to be seen. There are things that are important to every leader even tyrants and image is always one. Trump unfortunetely won partly because his lawlessness appeals to certain people. But I do completely see your point and it's a terrifying tread.

  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Online Community Member Posts: 466 Empowering

    I've heard all the stuff about pip but nothing about ESA unless that is lcwra. Does anyone know what is happening with that?

    I get pip and esa for my anxiety and depression and am struggling with elderly family that I help look after so I'm not sure what to do.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 3,228 Championing

    We will know more tommorow when the government make a statement.

  • apples
    apples Online Community Member Posts: 555 Empowering

    I’ve read that the disability cuts are to be watered down, hopefully this is for all benefits not just the pip freeze

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 3,119 Championing

    You are absolutely spot on 💯 %. When I got Covid in Nov 20 I had no temperature regulation it was 38 and 40 degrees for into 3 wks only coming down to 38 after taking round the clock paracetamol, I felt i was cooking and wondered what on earth is this doing to my body, that was when my bowel problems started and a total of 5 different diagnoses, I always forget one or two of them. I've had 36 good days since 17.11.20 no exaggeration it's heartbreaking really. I know people have worse illnesses but this makes me housebound which I've not coped well with and none of my medications work. Or diets, I eat every other day which is pretty miserable but that's more cos of cost but I'm not complaining as I've got my dogs so my choice and I don't want to lose them. They keep me sane or just about on the right side of sane mostly!

    There's a research professor at Derby Uni i wrote to in 2023, I emailed him this weekend as it was on the news last week that they've started anti viral drug trials (for Long Covid). He's agreed to put me on their database for possible inclusion next year when they're rolling it out wider. I've wanted that for so long but it's a bit scary prospect too. On the one hand it gives me hope and I think I couldn't be any worse but then on the other hand, it's drugs, I don't know what they are yet, so the risks could be too high. I've at least got time to think about it and hope they have results from the current trial/any adverse effects. And it depends where it takes place as I struggle to get anywhere.

    Sorry I do go off on a tangent 🙄😬 i think Liz Kendall is talking at 230pm but can't imagine she's got much to say yet.

    I hope you are OK, I love it when I see your posts, I keep saying thank god for Scope it is SO helpful a place to come. My MH issues mostly rears it's ugly head when I have other trauma or what I perceive as trauma, like lost my job, health, my home, my mum, then my next job, my sisters (estranged) in the last 3 yrs. I try to be grateful though, I adore my dogs who are my world and am working on building my courage and resilience. My epitaph will probably say 'she was a work in progress' 🤣 or worse, 'a piece of work' ha ha.

  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Online Community Member Posts: 466 Empowering

    Yes I hope that they are pressured. Most want a wealth tax which would be much fairer however there are so many near me taking the micky on expensive bikes selling drugs etc, they should be targeted first

  • michael57
    michael57 Online Community Member Posts: 1,865 Championing
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    if it’s about getting ppl too sick to work into work why are concentrating on pip which a lot of claimants get and work

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