ESA claim rejected
youhave13hours
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Hi,
I recently tried to claim new style ESA as my employer let me go because of my medical issues. I have sick notes. Got a letter today saying they cannot pay me as I have not paid or been credited with enough national insurance contributions. According to HMRC I have full years dating back to 2005. So I'm confused? Do I appeal? Is there any point?
Thanks
I recently tried to claim new style ESA as my employer let me go because of my medical issues. I have sick notes. Got a letter today saying they cannot pay me as I have not paid or been credited with enough national insurance contributions. According to HMRC I have full years dating back to 2005. So I'm confused? Do I appeal? Is there any point?
Thanks
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To qualify for new style ESA he need to have a complete NI record for tax years 2020-21 and 2021-21.https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/employment-and-support-allowance-contribution-based
You can still be referred for a Work Capability Assessment and if found to have Limited for Work you will get NI credits.
You could a calculator to check if you could qualify for Universal Credit.0 -
Yes I have as far as I can tell. I go onto the HMRC app and it says all the years are full going right back to 2004/20030
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youhave13hours said:Yes I have as far as I can tell.I’m not clear what it is you can tell.youhave13hours said:..the HMRC app and it says all the years are full going right back to 2004/2003calcotti said:To qualify for new style ESA he need to have a complete NI record for tax years 2020-21 and 2021-21.0
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You will need to have class 1 NI contributions in the previous 2 tax years. Unless you were self employed and then it would be class 2.0
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Sorry if I haven't been clear enough. I will try and attach the letter about the ESA and a screenshot from the hmrc app to show what I meant.
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Regardless of what class was paid the HMRC website and app would say that.
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I knew what you meant. A full year doesn't mean you have the correct NI contributions. Were you working at all during tax years 2020/21 and 2021/22? Are you claiming child benefit for a child that's 12 or under? if so then you will receive class 3 NI credits towards your state pension only. It doesn't qualify you for any ESA.
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What are the details in your record for 2020-21 and 2021-22? The summary record doesn’t tell us anything. What were you doing in those years?
Have you checked whether you could be eligible for UC?
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poppy123456 said:I knew what you meant. A full year doesn't mean you have the correct NI contributions. Were you working at all during tax years 2020/21 and 2021/22? Are you claiming child benefit for a child that's 12 or under? if so then you will receive class 3 NI credits towards your state pension only. It doesn't qualify you for any ESA.0
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So for the year in question 2021-2022 I have national insurance contributions from paid employment and it says I have 52 weeks credits. I don't know if that's what the ESA letter is referring to or something else.
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calcotti said:What are the details in your record for 2020-21 and 2021-22? The summary record doesn’t tell us anything. What were you doing in those years?
Have you checked whether you could be eligible for UC?
And yes I am claiming UC.0 -
youhave13hours said.And yes I am claiming UC.
Receiving Child Benefit for a child under 12 gets you Class 3 NI credits - they don’t help with ESA.youhave13hours said:So for the year in question 2021-2022 I have national insurance contributions from paid employment and it says I have 52 weeks credits.
Did you work for at least 26 weeks and earning a least £123/week in one those the two years?What does it say about tax year 2020-21?0 -
youhave13hours said:
And yes I am claiming UC.Which means claiming New style ESA will not make you financially better off because the ESA will be deducted in full from any UC entitlement. However, you will receive class 1 NI credits from the ESA and it's not means tested so can be useful in the future.0 -
poppy123456 said:Which means claiming New style ESA will not make you financially better off because the ESA will be deducted in full from any UC entitlement. However, you will receive class 1 NI credits from the ESA and it's not means tested so can be useful in the future.0
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calcotti said:youhave13hours said.And yes I am claiming UC.
Receiving Child Benefit for a child under 12 gets you Class 3 NI credits - they don’t help with ESA.youhave13hours said:So for the year in question 2021-2022 I have national insurance contributions from paid employment and it says I have 52 weeks credits.
Did you work for at least 26 weeks and earning a least £123/week in one those the two years?What does it say about tax year 2020-21?
My hours have always been up and down, some week could be under £123 some over but averaged out over the year it was £137 a week for 2021/2022
There was one week 2021/2022 I didn't get any pay but that was due to me being off work because of me having covid.
As for 2020/2021 a lot of that year I was furloughed so it brought my average down to £120 per week over the year. I worked the rest of the time when we were allowed to open up.
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poppy123456 said:youhave13hours said:
And yes I am claiming UC.Which means claiming New style ESA will not make you financially better off because the ESA will be deducted in full from any UC entitlement. However, you will receive class 1 NI credits from the ESA and it's not means tested so can be useful in the future.0 -
youhave13hours said:.
As for 2020/2021 a lot of that year I was furloughed so it brought my average down to £120 per week over the year. I worked the rest of the time when we were allowed to open up.
(I do wish HMRC gave a more detailed breakdown on the NI record!)0 -
calcotti said:poppy123456 said:Which means claiming New style ESA will not make you financially better off because the ESA will be deducted in full from any UC entitlement. However, you will receive class 1 NI credits from the ESA and it's not means tested so can be useful in the future.
Yes i know that, i was referring to the difference in the credits for both (if they were receiving payments for NsESA) Sorry, i should have made that clear.
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calcotti said:youhave13hours said:.
As for 2020/2021 a lot of that year I was furloughed so it brought my average down to £120 per week over the year. I worked the rest of the time when we were allowed to open up.
(I do wish HMRC gave a more detailed breakdown on the NI record!)0 -
Sorry for the typos in my earlier post.
I agree that if you were eligible to ESA there would be merit in getting ESA as well even UC though there would be no financial gain. However it does look likely that you are not entitled to ESA.0
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