Food prices: Have you changed what you eat?

Hannah_Alumni

Are you eating the same as you were three years ago?

According to latest figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS), food and non-alcoholic drink prices are rising faster than in the previous 45 years.

There's uncertainty over how we should best feed ourselves and our families. We’ve seen an increase in food bank needs, in cheap food purchasing and food sharing app downloads, and an increase or worsening of long-term health conditions. With local health chiefs saying “the increasing cost of essential food and energy has created a second health emergency” after covid.

Over to you:

• How have you been affected by rising food prices? 
• Do you have any tips for eating healthy on a budget? 
• Do you follow anyone online for food, recipe, or budget ideas?

Hannah_Alumni

This is a topic that I feel passionately about, so I did a little research.

The average price of a basket of shopping, using Which statistics from March 2023, shows Aldi came out top with 41 items costing £72.54. Only beating runner up Lidl by 25p.

But what I find missing from a lot of these comparison statistics of a basket or even a trolley full of shopping, is a diet consisting of what our health professionals say we need. Because we can be so stressed about eating something, I question how many people think about nutritional value? Do you?

I looked at the NHS’s Eat Well webpages for a balanced diet and I can see why so many people struggle to afford a healthier diet.

Using one example, that we must eat at least 5 portions of fruit and vegetables every day. I decided to see what the cost of 5 portions of fresh strawberries would be to a basket worth of groceries.

Considering a portion would be 80g we would need a 400g punnet of strawberries. Priced at £2.19 in Aldi, we can assume a basket would have 3 days’ worth. Totalling £6.57 for just the fruit part of our 5 a day.

You could substitute that 400g of fresh fruit for frozen, with Aldi offering a 350g bag of frozen strawberries for £1.65. But I would have to assume you have a freezer or that, with the rising energy bills, you could afford to run your freezer.

You may ask why I used strawberries as an example.

I live with a stoma and find it hard to have fibre in my diet. Fruits like bananas can cause constipation issues when eaten in larger amounts and I cannot eat a lot of fruit skins. Strawberries are the perfect go to for someone with a disability like mine. But with rising costs, I find it harder each day to find a balance.

So, I went in search online. I have found many different social media influencers, like Meals by Mitch, who cooks hearty dinners for under £5.00 and includes ways to get a balanced diet.

Sandy_123

Very interesting and well put @Hannah_Scope
I just wanted to add that pulses can be cheap, like chick peas, lentils etc. I appreciate that not many would like these foods, but those that do, can make many meals using those, also they can be used to bulk out meals too.

Sandy_123

Are they going to do deliveries @woodbine that be good if they did

Sandy_123

Well hopefully the do

2oldcodgers

What we eat and our shopping habit hasn't changed over the past 3 years.
I have noticed that the quality of fresh joints of meat along with fresh fruit & veg at Tesco has gone downhill. We still buy our 'specials' for the week from either M&S or Waitrose. Can't remember the last time we went into an Aldi/Lidl/Asda or Morrisons store.

Hannah_Alumni

Some really interesting points, especially about use by dates on deliveries. We have stopped shopping with Asda because of use by dates. Bought one of their 3 for offers on meats for dinners and all 3 had a use by date of the day after the delivery. Ended up freezing 2, but we found it happened a further 2 times.

I know it is a guidance with a lot of products, and a day won't make the difference but on principal it isn't great.

De38

My shopping bill is crazy high, I only eat one main meal a day plus my breakfast serial. As it so happens Im recently been told Im pre-Diabetes, so I have cut out tons of nicer foods and sweets.  Veg, chicken, rice, and lots of stir-fries for me. Aldi seems to have most things I want.  Its made me start to make meals more than ever rather than processed foods.

JessieJ

I didn't change what I ate, just didn't put the heating on at all. To control diabetes, I eat OMAD (that I always have done) & low carb/keto. So all fresh foods, but some certain ingredients can be pricey, that doesn't include the general (almost weekly) price rises of meat, fish, eggs, veg & berry fruits. The normal staples that are relatively cheap, spuds, pasta, rice & breads are out. It has been difficult though, money never lasting the month. Because of reasons some have already said re deliveries, plus the swaps they make for some foods not being available, I prefer going myself. Luckily, I have the choice of four different supermarkets within powerchair range, two of them being Aldi & Lidl, plus a few other shops.

Dreadwitch

Hannah_Scope said:

Are you eating the same as you were three years ago?

According to latest figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS), food and non-alcoholic drink prices are rising faster than in the previous 45 years.

There's uncertainty over how we should best feed ourselves and our families. We’ve seen an increase in food bank needs, in cheap food purchasing and food sharing app downloads, and an increase or worsening of long-term health conditions. With local health chiefs saying “the increasing cost of essential food and energy has created a second health emergency” after covid.

Over to you:

• How have you been affected by rising food prices? 
• Do you have any tips for eating healthy on a budget? 
• Do you follow anyone online for food, recipe, or budget ideas?

Currently wondering if I'm suffering from malnutrition because I've eaten nothing much more than 2 year old Aldi super noodles for the last 6 months. 
I had my pip stopped because apparently I'm now cured of copd, autism, adhd and fibromyalgia. I can't go through the appeal process because mentally I can't cope. This leaves me with £55 a week after deductions from my ESA, I have to pay £5 council tax, £9 water, £12 bedroom tax, £5 heating charge, £20 electric, £15 heating... Obviously I don't pay everything every week as my outgoings are more than my income. I can't shop online because I can't afford the minimum amount for delivery, I don't have a supermarket within walking distance, not that I could walk there and back if I did. I have no food banks, no community kitchens or anything else like that and the only shops are 2 local very expensive corner shops. I tried a few food apps but again they're pointless when there is nowhere nearby, I live a 20 minute bus ride away from civilisation.
Last year I sold anything of value so have no tv, radio or any other form of entertainment other than my very old phone, thankfully my neighbour allows me to use her wifi. I haven't eat fruit or veg since I can't remember, pre covid I was a healthy 9 stone, now I weigh 6.7stone and I'm losing weight every day. I've repeatedly asked my council for help but they keep telling me that because I'm a 53 year old adult who lives independently I'm not entitled to anything. I didn't get any cost of living payments due to the dwp messing up my ESA claim and them saying that I didn't fulfill the criteria on certain dates.
I've lived through some pretty tough times but nothing like this, at least when I had children I could get help, now nobody helps someone of my age. It saddens me because I raised a family while working part time then full time until my health meant I could no longer work, I contributed yet I'm now not getting anything back.
I feel as though I exist, I don't live. I don't go anywhere because I can't afford the bus, I can't walk because I have copd and cannot breathe. 
In the last 3 years my life has gone from ok to absolutely awful and I often wonder what the point is, but thanks to this government I will no doubt live less than a few years.. I'm sure that's their plan, kill off the weak and disabled. 

poppy123456

Giving personal information such as addresses, phone numbers, email addresses etc etc isn't allowed here on scope to protect members. Scope also do not support members meeting up in person, again to protect members.

Having said that i have met someone on here but we had "known each other" for a couple of years before we actually met in person. We also spoke on the phone quite a few times before meeting. When we did eventually meet at a shopping centre for the first time in Feb 2022, we had some families members with us just to be safe. (though we did fully trust each other)

We have become very good friends and now speak on the phone every week. I've also visited her in her home quite a few times, with yesterday being the most recent visit. She doesn't live too far from me. My daughter comes with me. not for safety or anything but just because she's really likes her too. (as well as to see her lovely little cat)

Adrian_Scope

Hello @Dreadwitch, thank you for sharing a bit about your situation with us. Have you spoken with your GP at all? They sometimes have access to things in your area and could arrange tests to check for malnutrition. Our website has some ideas for free food and accessing food banks, I know you said you don't believe there's any in your area but in exceptional circumstances many are able to deliver food.

I'm going to send you an email with some additional signposting, so please look out for that!

L_Volunteer

It sounds like you are having a difficult time at the moment @Whymeiwonder2 Is there any heating support available to you and your wife? Have you tried charity shops and the pound shop for candles?

Please do not hesitate to let us know if there's anything we can do to support you and your wife. We are all here for both of you 

@tomm - I hear you! The same products but the prices have gone up so much and sometimes for smaller volumes. Do you buy these products still, just out of curiosity? 

Steve_in_The_City

@Dreadwitch I trust matters will improve for you? They certainly can't get worse. I hope someone has given you the help you need or set you on the road to find that help. 

Adeline

Hannah_Scope said:

But what I find missing from a lot of these comparison statistics of a basket or even a trolley full of shopping, is a diet consisting of what our health professionals say we need. Because we can be so stressed about eating something, I question how many people think about nutritional value? Do you?

I'm please you pointed this out as many of my regular food items have definitely increased more than the stated percentages, in some instances items have more than doubled in price.
There are many food items we can't switch for alternatives (one of my children has ARFID and my autistic children aren't very flexible around food either) so as a result of the costs now being unmanageable we (myself and my partner) are just going without and skipping meals. When you're on a fixed income it only stretches so far. 

2oldcodgers

Whymeiwonder2 said:

@Hannah_Scope
Sorry can’t afford some foods that would help, we try but budget is limited. Our gas electric bill has gone up by 50%!

Wow!

Mine has come down from £260 to £180 a month.

Autism_at_40

I got into the habit of going shopping around 5pm when all the yellow labels start going on and just get everything like that.  If I don't need it right now, then I freeze it, specifically meat or bread items.

I couldn't believe it, I went the other day and the bottle of Olive Oil I used to buy had gone up by £2.50!!!

I have thought about online shopping, but as it's only me, I think I would struggle to spend the £40 or so minimum payment.  Plus, I would miss out on all the reduced stuff.  I probably spend more than £40 when I go, but that's because I buy lots of reduced things.

I also tend to do OMAD, which means I can buy healthy items, my only downfall is crisps - totally addicted.

I also find it hard because I do need to use my credit card, not only because I get points for spending, but because my UC and PIP always come around the same time, so I have to use it.  I have struggled because even the month's where I have told myself not to buy anything I don't explicitly need, I still end up wondering the bill got so big.

I think I will struggle in future because 1 of the credit cards I use is changing the way they calculate minimum payments and it's going up.  Only alternative is to close the account.

I don't know if this is completely off topic, but I notice some others have mentioned utilities - I just found out that my gas hasnt been billed for 3 months because the smart meter stopped communicating and they never told me!!!  Thankfully, I have now given them a meter reading and I'm still in credit, but obviously, it's not accurate as the prices went up in April.

Years ago, thankfully, I got into the habit of making certain things for myself, so I make my own washing detergent, fabric softener, moisturiser and deodorant - it does make things a bit cheaper for me.  I hope to be able to switch to homemade shampoo and conditioner too.

I also noticed ASDA promoting their double size toilet rolls, twice the size of the original ones, except the width of them are getting much smaller.

2oldcodgers

Autism_at_40 said:

I also noticed ASDA promoting their double size toilet rolls, twice the size of the original ones, except the width of them are getting much smaller.

Now that is a problem in the making. How are those with large posteriors  going to manage with mini width toilet paper - the mind boggles.

Cartini

2oldcodgers said:

Autism_at_40 said:

I also noticed ASDA promoting their double size toilet rolls, twice the size of the original ones, except the width of them are getting much smaller.

Now that is a problem in the making. How are those with large posteriors  going to manage with mini width toilet paper - the mind boggles.

Steve_in_The_City

I eat well yet economically, and I haven't really changed the way I eat, cook or shop. For decades I have batch cooked for the freezer. For me that is the easiest and most economical way of cooking. I buy a lot of food on its use by date and I make use of special offers to the point where I will bulk buy. I waste very little food. I have all of life's luxuries in the freezer but almost nothing is bought at full price and I plan well ahead for special occasion meals.

I have used supermarket own brands now for a very long time as generally they are as good as the branded stuff. I use frozen veg as I can't always use an entire cabbage for instance. I bake 2 loaves at once. The kneading and rising time is the same as making 1 loaf, time in the oven is the same (so no extra for electricity) and I will cook something for my evening meal at the same time. So everything really is in the planning.

I have stopped buying fresh herbs in supermarkets as I find them overpiced and not very flavourful. So that is one change that I have made.

worried33

Not yet, but I will have to change, as what I have been spending isnt sustainable, my supermarket deliveries compared to 2 years ago have just hit the 50% inflation mark.