Would you accept having your bank account checked?

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  • judie
    judie Community Member Posts: 339 Empowering
    honestjon said:
    2oldcodgers said:
    Tonawanda17 said:
    Hi Rosie. Thanks very much. I guess the other thing is don’t believe all you read in the papers
    Probably good advice
    But they do get it right most of the time.

    I was in both local papers - full page 3 2 weeks ago as well as the Sun and everything they printed including my quotes were word for word!
    Probably good advice not to believe everything you read online as well.
    There are some people who write things just to wind you up 😂
    You mean don't feed the troll 😁
  • michael57
    michael57 Community Member Posts: 2,766 Championing
    ah page 3 the sun you are the model of the **** drummer statue down in cornwall nothing personal just my farmer humour
  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,590 Championing

    I never realised just how stressful too much money can be! Or how easy life could be without menstruation and with a wife in attendance. A blog elsewhere would surely leave room for others on this thread. 

    I'm reminded of my dad who wouldn't tip the bin men at Christmas because, according to him, they should have worked harder at school if they wanted more money. Yes, but..

    (He was a happy man as long as tea was on the table at 5.30pm :) )


        
  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,423 Championing
    Let's all play nice now please folks.  
  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,590 Championing

    Albus, I take your point.
    Don't get me wrong, I adored my dad and wanted to marry him (and I'm straight) but like many men of his generation, he was unable or unwilling to empathise with others. I sense that here. It's not nice having our noses rubbed in it by 'the haves' on a forum meant for support and inclusion!

    We're moving further away from the concept of an equal and fairer society despite all the rhetoric. We don't all get what we deserve or are entitled to. 

    Women remain disadvantaged in a man's world and always will. Young people are smarter than us so their voices need to be heard above ours - it's not like we solved any of the world's problems is it! Life isn't fair and the law is a blunt tool but kindness costs nothing. 
     

  • honestjon
    honestjon Community Member Posts: 173 Empowering
    WhatThe said:

    Albus, I take your point.
    Don't get me wrong, I adored my dad and wanted to marry him (and I'm straight) but like many men of his generation, he was unable or unwilling to empathise with others. I sense that here. It's not nice having our noses rubbed in it by 'the haves' on a forum meant for support and inclusion!

    We're moving further away from the concept of an equal and fairer society despite all the rhetoric. We don't all get what we deserve or are entitled to. 

    Women remain disadvantaged in a man's world and always will. Young people are smarter than us so their voices need to be heard above ours - it's not like we solved any of the world's problems is it! Life isn't fair and the law is a blunt tool but kindness costs nothing. 
     

    There is no need for anyone to be cruel to others especially when the people may be vulnerable and less able to cope.
    If people could check what they are writing before they post the comment it might help? 
    This is a supportive environment and nobody has the right to use it for any other purpose.
  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,590 Championing

    honestjon, please explain. What have I missed?

  • 2oldcodgers
    2oldcodgers Posts: 739 Connected
    Under DLA you could identify which element you were making a claim for, this does not seem to be the case with PIP.
    When I claimed DLA many years ago I only opted for the Mobility part as I did have extra costs for that element.chiarieds said:
    2oldcodgers said:
    Under DLA you could identify which element you were making a claim for, this does not seem to be the case with PIP.
    When I claimed DLA many years ago I only opted for the Mobility part as I did have extra costs for that element.

    As my Mum used to say you need to have a very good memory if saying 'untruths.'
    Or, as has just been said succintly.


    For that I apologise - it was simply a 'slip of the pen'. It was a case of the brain not working at the same speed as my typing.
    To reiterate I started off claiming the care element only and some years later at a review claimed mobility as well.
  • honestjon
    honestjon Community Member Posts: 173 Empowering
    WhatThe said:

    honestjon, please explain. What have I missed?

    If you have missed anything you can read through the thread and find what ever was missed?
  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,423 Championing
    I think it's probably best for everyone if we just draw a line through that particular part of the conversation now.  
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,449 Championing
    2oldcodgers said:
    Under DLA you could identify which element you were making a claim for, this does not seem to be the case with PIP.
    When I claimed DLA many years ago I only opted for the Mobility part as I did have extra costs for that element.chiarieds said:
    2oldcodgers said:
    Under DLA you could identify which element you were making a claim for, this does not seem to be the case with PIP.
    When I claimed DLA many years ago I only opted for the Mobility part as I did have extra costs for that element.

    As my Mum used to say you need to have a very good memory if saying 'untruths.'
    Or, as has just been said succintly.


    For that I apologise - it was simply a 'slip of the pen'. It was a case of the brain not working at the same speed as my typing.
    To reiterate I started off claiming the care element only and some years later at a review claimed mobility as well.

    No you couldn't
    If you were "awarded" Mobility - you received it
    If you were "awarded" Care - you received it
    It was not a choice of "claiming"  a particular component !!
  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,590 Championing

    There is no need for anyone to be cruel to others especially when the people may be vulnerable and less able to cope.
    If people could check what they are writing before they post the comment it might help? 
    This is a supportive environment and nobody has the right to use it for any other purpose.

    honestjon, please explain. What have I missed? 

  • honestjon
    honestjon Community Member Posts: 173 Empowering
    Albus_Scope said:
    I think it's probably best for everyone if we just draw a line through that particular part of the conversation now.  
    WhatThe said:

    There is no need for anyone to be cruel to others especially when the people may be vulnerable and less able to cope.
    If people could check what they are writing before they post the comment it might help? 
    This is a supportive environment and nobody has the right to use it for any other purpose.

    honestjon, please explain. What have I missed? 


  • apple85
    apple85 Community Member Posts: 903 Championing
    @woodbine

    I'm a glass half empty person but that last post of yours is really negative (I mean I get some people don’t like to sugar coat reality but no need to get out the ‘wet fish’ )

    firstly everyone knows an labour outright majority is most likely next GE

    i think a small Tory majority is next most likely (if all the tactical voting gets their wires crossed and/or the reform party do some sort of deal pre election.

    but the last supply and demand arrangement was the tories with the duo (who only had 10 mps in parliament) - they didn’t have the bargaining chips for a coalition deal

    lib Dem’s currently have 15 seats - im 99% they will build on that next GE and I think that in the situation of 35 or more seats the Lib Dem’s won’t settle for a supply and demand arrangement 

    of course labour in that scenario could choose to go the minority gov route

    and a lab-LD coalition is MY personal preference only - not what I thinks going to happen (I only think there’s a 3% chance it will happen but I can hope)

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    on your second point - I don’t know what your personal situation is (if you have any fallbacks) but if the worst gets announced this week and more so if it’s officially implemented it’s going to have a negative effect on many of this forum members lives.

    both forum mods and those with gamechanger status on the scope forum are the most respected and when they say something people who visit this forum are more likely to read & listen

    so when you imply that there’s sod all any of us can do, the uk population doesn’t care enough about the disabled to remember any of this for even 48hrs and we should just except our (what is looking increasingly dire) fates………………well it’s a a bit of a gut punch even for the glass half empty of us here

    very few things in life are full gone conclusions - and yes perhaps the sheer idea of trying to push back and change things seems like wastes of time & pointless in situations like this but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try (nor should those who do be discouraged or made fun of)

    I can’t remember if you are in the ‘none of this will ever happen’ thought group or the ‘accepting fate with no resistance’ type 

    The uk is a country of free thought and speech - it’s your right to feel the way you.

    but I do think all of us have a responsibility not to demoralise others and not reject others opinions off the bat (not without a type of reasoned explanation) 
  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,590 Championing
    edited November 2023

    I have no idea what your oblique comment was about nor why my question was difficult to answer.

    Never mind  

  • Tonawanda17
    Tonawanda17 Community Member Posts: 183 Contributor
    Just found this : 

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,590 Championing

    In answer to the question, if this is going to happen then objecting won't stop this because bank accounts belong to the banks! We're being monitored whether we realise it or not. It's why everyone now needs to open an account to receive benefits.

    I doubt there are many claimants on working-age benefits (£60/70 a week) with secret savings though.. 

    Not everyone can manage admin or access their documents or pay for the bank statements on demand and therein lies the risk of penalising the most vulnerable (as always) for non-compliance or delay.

    When I was in work before lockdown, UC taxed my earnings at 63% despite my employer paying directly into my bank account and my not being self-employed or liable for a minimum income floor (MIF). 

    Checks and balances of the UC Programme are not in place and monitoring bank accounts won't change that! 

    Woodbine is right about the bulk of the budget accounting for pensions even with the 6/7-year extension now imposed on women. Reforms never save money either.  


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