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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 59,824 Championing
    edited December 2023
    2oldcodgers said:
    poppy123456 said:
    2oldcodgers said:
    poppy123456 said:


    Not sure how you came to that conclusion because PIP has nothing to do with anyone's ability to work and never has been and very unlikely to ever be this way.
    I don't know why you say that as my post was particularly clear.
    I know it isn't but a similar system using descriptors relevant to the working environment would be the way forward.
    As PIP is all about how serious your issues (descriptors) are that affect your life then do the same type of assessment - It's what you can do not what you can't.
    You could call it the Working Independence Assessment - WIA.


    Ridiculous nonesense!!
    Is it? I can see that using that system (PIP) could be adapted to decide who is capable of working. It's about time this country ensures that those that can work do so.
    Went past my local pub this morning on the bus to town. Once again there were 4 large mobility scooters on the pavement outside. This happens most days. 


    Says the very person that gives away their PIP money because they said they have no extra care needs. 

    I'm sorry but i've bit my tongue for long enough. If you have nothing nice to say then i suggest you don't comment on threads because to be honest, most of what you say just isn't helpful at all. Maybe you should also learn a few manners along the way.
  • wendy1
    wendy1 Community member Posts: 79 Empowering
    The problem is, some people look well but their body is well enough to work. I don't know how many times people have remarked on how good I look, if only they knew my day to day circumstances, being in pain everyday certainly tells on my body and mental health
  • wendy1
    wendy1 Community member Posts: 79 Empowering
    I'm not mentioning any names here, but the people involved will know who I'm referring to. Am I reading this right, a certain person receives PIP but gives it away.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 59,824 Championing
    wendy1 said:
    I'm not mentioning any names here, but the people involved will know who I'm referring to. Am I reading this right, a certain person receives PIP but gives it away.

    Yes, you are correct.
  • 2oldcodgers
    2oldcodgers Posts: 739 Connected
    poppy123456 said:
    wendy1 said:
    I'm not mentioning any names here, but the people involved will know who I'm referring to. Am I reading this right, a certain person receives PIP but gives it away.

    Yes, you are correct.
    That's me!!

    Please then explain the difference between someone  who uses their PIP money to pay for an annual foreign holiday, or maybe someone else who buys a digital piano?
    Those people are the only ones that get the benefit of that money. In my case I benefit seeing my gifts helping my young grandson who has been refused DLA but still remains both mentally and physically disabled.    
  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 7,182 Online Community Coordinator
    Did anyone see Doctor Who last night?  There was a great scene where someone got their brain frazzled by a mind ray and started yelling lots of things you'd read in a comments section of a newspaper, then started yelling at one of the people (who was in a wheelchair);
    "You don't need that wheelchair, I've seen you stand up!"

    It tickled me as this is the kind of discrimination disabled people face every day.  So we really need to be supporting people and not making uneducated judgements about why they might need mobility support. 
  • Lou67
    Lou67 Community member Posts: 8,626 Championing

    Well said Poppy I totally agree with everything you’ve just said. You actually couldn’t make the stuff up, oh sorry yes some people can 🤦‍♀️ 
  • 2oldcodgers
    2oldcodgers Posts: 739 Connected
    poppy123456 said:
    2oldcodgers said:
    poppy123456 said:
    wendy1 said:
    I'm not mentioning any names here, but the people involved will know who I'm referring to. Am I reading this right, a certain person receives PIP but gives it away.

    Yes, you are correct.
    That's me!!

    Please then explain the difference between someone  who uses their PIP money to pay for an annual foreign holiday, or maybe someone else who buys a digital piano?
    Those people are the only ones that get the benefit of that money. In my case I benefit seeing my gifts helping my young grandson who has been refused DLA but still remains both mentally and physically disabled.    

    I'll happily explain!! Over many many comments you told members that it's wrong for them to spend their money on anything they wanted, which includes holidays and any other items. You stated that PIP is for the extra costs a disability causes and you continued to argue this time after time.

    Then suddenly you say that you actually give your PIP daily living money to your children and grandchildren because you have no extra costs caused by your disability. So it's ok for you to do what you want with your money but it's not ok for others to do the same??? It's like the pot calling the kettle black!

    I book holidays because it helps my conditions and if i can have 2 weeks extra a year with less pain then that's exactly what i will do so yes, my PIP does help pay for extra costs i have.
    Put it another way then. I could change where the money comes from. I could say that I give his family £400 every 4 weeks from my state pension of £250 a week. Then I could say that all of my PIP Care money is used to pay for our food and  living expenses. Does that work for you?

     
  • noman
    noman Community member Posts: 1,052 Pioneering
    Has state pension gone up from £203.85?
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 59,824 Championing
    edited December 2023
    2oldcodgers said:
    poppy123456 said:
    2oldcodgers said:
    poppy123456 said:
    wendy1 said:
    I'm not mentioning any names here, but the people involved will know who I'm referring to. Am I reading this right, a certain person receives PIP but gives it away.

    Yes, you are correct.
    That's me!!

    Please then explain the difference between someone  who uses their PIP money to pay for an annual foreign holiday, or maybe someone else who buys a digital piano?
    Those people are the only ones that get the benefit of that money. In my case I benefit seeing my gifts helping my young grandson who has been refused DLA but still remains both mentally and physically disabled.    

    I'll happily explain!! Over many many comments you told members that it's wrong for them to spend their money on anything they wanted, which includes holidays and any other items. You stated that PIP is for the extra costs a disability causes and you continued to argue this time after time.

    Then suddenly you say that you actually give your PIP daily living money to your children and grandchildren because you have no extra costs caused by your disability. So it's ok for you to do what you want with your money but it's not ok for others to do the same??? It's like the pot calling the kettle black!

    I book holidays because it helps my conditions and if i can have 2 weeks extra a year with less pain then that's exactly what i will do so yes, my PIP does help pay for extra costs i have.
      I could say that I give his family £400 every 4 weeks from my state pension of £250 a week.
     

    Yet in a previous comment not long ago you said your state pension was £156/week. https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/763697#Comment_763697 how you continue to be allowed to give so much misleading information is beyond me.
    noman said:
    Has state pension gone up from £203.85?

    That's the New state pension rate, it hasn't increased since April 2023. https://www.gov.uk/new-state-pension/what-youll-get


  • noman
    noman Community member Posts: 1,052 Pioneering
    edited December 2023
    Just wondered how [Removed by moderator – Uncivil] was getting £250 a week.
  • Lou67
    Lou67 Community member Posts: 8,626 Championing

    Wish I had a spare £400 every 4 weeks I could give my daughter and her family to help with their bills 🙄
  • noman
    noman Community member Posts: 1,052 Pioneering
    @Lou67

    I don't need my PIP or UC payments,would you like to have them o:):)
  • Lou67
    Lou67 Community member Posts: 8,626 Championing

    @noman
    Only if your sure 😂😂😂

    I just can’t believe anyone can afford to give that kind off money away, but apparently one person does 🙄
  • noman
    noman Community member Posts: 1,052 Pioneering
    Lou67 said:

    @noman
    Only if your sure 😂😂😂

    I just can’t believe anyone can afford to give that kind off money away, but apparently one person does 🙄
    Only too happy to help out,my state pension of £500 per week isn't far off so could pass that onto you also :D

  • 2oldcodgers
    2oldcodgers Posts: 739 Connected
    poppy123456 said:
    2oldcodgers said:
    poppy123456 said:
    2oldcodgers said:
    poppy123456 said:
    wendy1 said:
    I'm not mentioning any names here, but the people involved will know who I'm referring to. Am I reading this right, a certain person receives PIP but gives it away.

    Yes, you are correct.
    That's me!!

    Please then explain the difference between someone  who uses their PIP money to pay for an annual foreign holiday, or maybe someone else who buys a digital piano?
    Those people are the only ones that get the benefit of that money. In my case I benefit seeing my gifts helping my young grandson who has been refused DLA but still remains both mentally and physically disabled.    

    I'll happily explain!! Over many many comments you told members that it's wrong for them to spend their money on anything they wanted, which includes holidays and any other items. You stated that PIP is for the extra costs a disability causes and you continued to argue this time after time.

    Then suddenly you say that you actually give your PIP daily living money to your children and grandchildren because you have no extra costs caused by your disability. So it's ok for you to do what you want with your money but it's not ok for others to do the same??? It's like the pot calling the kettle black!

    I book holidays because it helps my conditions and if i can have 2 weeks extra a year with less pain then that's exactly what i will do so yes, my PIP does help pay for extra costs i have.
      I could say that I give his family £400 every 4 weeks from my state pension of £250 a week.
     

    Yet in a previous comment not long ago you said your state pension was £156/week. https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/763697#Comment_763697 how you continue to be allowed to give so much misleading information is beyond me.
    noman said:
    Has state pension gone up from £203.85?

    That's the New state pension rate, it hasn't increased since April 2023. https://www.gov.uk/new-state-pension/what-youll-get


    Yes my pre 2016 pension is £156 but this when added to the 2nd NI Pension, NIGC etc it takes the weekly pension up to just shy of £250 a week.
  • 2oldcodgers
    2oldcodgers Posts: 739 Connected
    Lou67 said:

    Wish I had a spare £400 every 4 weeks I could give my daughter and her family to help with their bills 🙄
    We/I budget very carefully. Due to illness and disability our social life is very restricted.
    We have a Motability car which is all paid for by the State  - apart from fuel.
    We do not have holidays etc.
    We have no housing costs and no Council Tax to pay.
    We both live very simply and always ask ourselves 'do we really need to spend....'
    We have savings under £10,000.

    Consequently we can afford to give the £100 a week away to a very worthwhile cause. 
  • 2oldcodgers
    2oldcodgers Posts: 739 Connected
    noman said:
    Has state pension gone up from £203.85?
    Yes it has for me - from last April. I include my NI second pension etc. I'm on the old pension - pre 2016 but with the extra due to the size of my NI contributions they have made it up to just shy of £250 a week.

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