means tested benefits - is they a limit on what we can use the money for .

darrel22

I was worried about this for some time but i have always given CSA child money to my X partner,   I don't think it is compulsory to do so on benefit or maybe small amount,  but I give what i can i  try and save a few hundred a month from my benefit to send, but I don't spend  a lot on myself and am willing to go without in order to help my son ,  my X partner is struggling financial so it makes me happy knowing they have extra money in there house hold to help .  The problem that worries me is i don't know if i am doing anything wrong and if the DWP will punish me for it. 

poppy123456

You are not doing anything wrong by doing this. What you spend your money on is entirely your decision.

2oldcodgers

poppy123456 said:

You are not doing anything wrong by doing this. What you spend your money on is entirely your decision.

Also giving away money from a PIP award to someone else is also acceptable as what I spend my money on is entirely my decision.

poppy123456

2oldcodgers said:

poppy123456 said:

You are not doing anything wrong by doing this. What you spend your money on is entirely your decision.

Also giving away money from a PIP award to someone else is also acceptable as what I spend my money on is entirely my decision.

No one said it wasn't. However, when you continue to tell people in many different comments in the past that PIP is for the extra costs of having a disability and they should spend their money on anything they want to. Then turn around and say you have no extra costs so give your money away then it's like the pot calling the kettle black. Please don't advise people one thing and then do the exact opposite yourself!!

2oldcodgers

poppy123456 said:

2oldcodgers said:

poppy123456 said:

You are not doing anything wrong by doing this. What you spend your money on is entirely your decision.

Also giving away money from a PIP award to someone else is also acceptable as what I spend my money on is entirely my decision.

No one said it wasn't. However, when you continue to tell people in many different comments in the past that PIP is for the extra costs of having a disability and they should spend their money on anything they want to. Then turn around and say you have no extra costs so give your money away then it's like the pot calling the kettle black. Please don't advise people one thing and then do the exact opposite yourself!!

PIP IS for the extra costs of being disabled. But if there are no extra costs what should the money be spent on then?
Our household bills are all up to date, all paid for out of my Civil Service pensions, we have no Council Tax to pay. The only expense left is petrol for the Motability car that we rarely use. We don't go away on holiday except maybe the odd day out.
We do however have a fairly good social life with invites from friends and ex work colleagues to attend various functions birthday parties/theatres/conservative party functions/Lodge dinners etc.
None of the above would cost more than £10 between us for raffle tickets.

So what should we do with the weekly £100+ that PIP pays out instead of us helping out a disabled young relative who was refused benefit?

vikingqueen

                 If you have no daily living needs why do you claim it @2oldcodgers, pip is 2 separate elements and you can just claim mobility by answering no problems to the daily living part.

Lou67

@vikingqueen
Hi I hope you’re keeping well.

Those were my thoughts exactly, if you didn’t put a case forward saying things were wrong with you I’m sure there would be no award made. 

poppy123456

2oldcodgers said:

poppy123456 said:

2oldcodgers said:

poppy123456 said:

You are not doing anything wrong by doing this. What you spend your money on is entirely your decision.

Also giving away money from a PIP award to someone else is also acceptable as what I spend my money on is entirely my decision.

No one said it wasn't. However, when you continue to tell people in many different comments in the past that PIP is for the extra costs of having a disability and they should spend their money on anything they want to. Then turn around and say you have no extra costs so give your money away then it's like the pot calling the kettle black. Please don't advise people one thing and then do the exact opposite yourself!!

PIP IS for the extra costs of being disabled. But if there are no extra costs what should the money be spent on then?

As we constantly advise, there's no rules on what you can and cant spend your money on. However please stop commenting on threads and telling others that spending on their money on holidays and hobbies shouldn't be allowed and that's not what PIP is for.

poppy123456

woodbine said:

Not sure why you have no CT to pay unless you get means tested benefits?

2oldcodgers claims Pension Credit, those that do claim this will be entitled to 100% CTR and Housing benefit (if they rent their home)

poppy123456

woodbine said:

poppy123456 said:

woodbine said:

Not sure why you have no CT to pay unless you get means tested benefits?

2oldcodgers claims Pension Credit, those that do claim this will be entitled to 100% CTR and Housing benefit (if they rent their home)

I thought that then I read that they have civil service pensionS add them to state pensions and I would be surprised if pension credit would be paid ??

According to his other comments they are claiming Pension credit as well as PIP, AA, state pension and numerous private pensions. 

2oldcodgers

woodbine said:

Not sure why you have no CT to pay unless you get means tested benefits? The last masonic lodge dinner I went to cost us far more than £10  and that was 30 years ago, its true that PIP is for the extra cost that disability brings but there are no rules on how it should be spent, and as motability is a charity it seems a shame that you use your PIP mobility to pay for a car that you "rarely" use.
It's a shame that you seem to want to press on others what you see right for you <shakes head>

We claim Guaranteed Pension Credit which entitles us to 100% Council Tax Support.

The tickets we use are provided free of charge either by the venues or in the case of 'Black Tie' do's are paid for us by a long friends and standing members in consideration of how I helped them all with their tax and business problems in the past.
As for using the Motability car this is used for longer distances say once every 6/8 weeks. I don't believe that there is a minimum mileage condition. 
 

poppy123456

2oldcodgers said:

woodbine said:

Not sure why you have no CT to pay unless you get means tested benefits? The last masonic lodge dinner I went to cost us far more than £10  and that was 30 years ago, its true that PIP is for the extra cost that disability brings but there are no rules on how it should be spent, and as motability is a charity it seems a shame that you use your PIP mobility to pay for a car that you "rarely" use.
It's a shame that you seem to want to press on others what you see right for you <shakes head>

As for using the Motability car this is used for longer distances say once every 6/8 weeks. I don't believe that there is a minimum mileage condition. 
 

Why on earth would there be any minimum mileage conditions? Even with other leases, you won’t have any minimum mileage conditions! 

2oldcodgers

poppy123456 said:

woodbine said:

poppy123456 said:

woodbine said:

Not sure why you have no CT to pay unless you get means tested benefits?

2oldcodgers claims Pension Credit, those that do claim this will be entitled to 100% CTR and Housing benefit (if they rent their home)

I thought that then I read that they have civil service pensionS add them to state pensions and I would be surprised if pension credit would be paid ??

According to his other comments they are claiming Pension credit as well as PIP, AA, state pension and numerous private pensions. 

Yes we have an income from all sources as determined by the DWP of £769 a week. The government in their wisdom say that we need a minimum income level of £837 a week. Consequently we receive Pension Credit of £68 a week.

This to be honestly, is ridiculous on an other front. Because of that top up we receive all of the COL payments and pensioner heating allowances. I have spoken to my MP who happens to be a good friend also about this as pensioners are being given these extras when in the main they are not required or needed. We will see what happens in March 24. 

2oldcodgers

Lou67 said:

@vikingqueen
Hi I hope you’re keeping well.

Those were my thoughts exactly, if you didn’t put a case forward saying things were wrong with you I’m sure there would be no award made. 

There is NO connection with what you put on the claim form as fitting the various descriptors AND the extra costs that may or may not be involved.
It is more than possible that many claimants of PIP have difficult disabilities yet they would have no extra costs involved.

Secondly where are the extra costs for being unable to walk more than 20 metres? Prior to April 2023 I have always owned my own cars. Should the Mobility award have been used as part payment of the finance? I would have owned the cars whether I was disabled or not. I always changed cars after 3 years to maintain a manufacturers warranty. I'll go back to 1992  when I started to buy new cars every 3 years (previously I kept older cars on the road.) My disabilities started in December 1995!

Lou67

@2oldcodgers
Im not here to argue with you. If I didn’t need the money from pip I just wouldn’t claim it.
I have never before known anyone to moan they are getting TO MUCH money to live on that they can give it away. 🤷‍♀️

2oldcodgers

poppy123456 said:

2oldcodgers said:

woodbine said:

Not sure why you have no CT to pay unless you get means tested benefits? The last masonic lodge dinner I went to cost us far more than £10  and that was 30 years ago, its true that PIP is for the extra cost that disability brings but there are no rules on how it should be spent, and as motability is a charity it seems a shame that you use your PIP mobility to pay for a car that you "rarely" use.
It's a shame that you seem to want to press on others what you see right for you <shakes head>

As for using the Motability car this is used for longer distances say once every 6/8 weeks. I don't believe that there is a minimum mileage condition. 
 

Why on earth would there be any minimum mileage conditions? Even with other leases, you won’t have any minimum mileage conditions! 

Woodbine seems to be critising me for not using the car as much!

WhatThe

Secondly where are the extra costs for being unable to walk more than 20 metres?

I can walk but like most people, have experienced immobility and needed cabs. I'm a bit baffled by the question tbh 

2oldcodgers

WhatThe said:

Secondly where are the extra costs for being unable to walk more than 20 metres?

I can walk but like most people, have experienced immobility and needed cabs. I'm a bit baffled by the question tbh 

What £70's worth of cabs every week?

2oldcodgers

woodbine said:

2oldcodgers said:

woodbine said:

Not sure why you have no CT to pay unless you get means tested benefits? The last masonic lodge dinner I went to cost us far more than £10  and that was 30 years ago, its true that PIP is for the extra cost that disability brings but there are no rules on how it should be spent, and as motability is a charity it seems a shame that you use your PIP mobility to pay for a car that you "rarely" use.
It's a shame that you seem to want to press on others what you see right for you <shakes head>

We claim Guaranteed Pension Credit which entitles us to 100% Council Tax Support.

The tickets we use are provided free of charge either by the venues or in the case of 'Black Tie' do's are paid for us by a long friends and standing members in consideration of how I helped them all with their tax and business problems in the past.
As for using the Motability car this is used for longer distances say once every 6/8 weeks. I don't believe that there is a minimum mileage condition. 
 

I think there should be, but that aside it seems that giving up enhanced mobility every week for the use of a car every 8 weeks is an expensive way of doing it ?

Is it? From my point of view when buying my own cars in the past (finance alone was just over £500 a month) is a lot more expensive than the 'all in' cost of the Motability car. The car is for convenience only.

noman

@honestjon
Well said and very true!

WhatThe

What £70's worth of cabs every week?

That's my weekly income and I can walk so in my case, no!

Somebody unable to walk more than 20 metres might spend that on cabs every week, yes!