Insomnia
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One thing though. I heavily doubt any doctor would prescribe you Zolpidem tartrate when you're already taking Mirtazapine 30mg. A psychiatrist might prescribe Zolpidem 5mg in addition to Mirtazapine 30mg, but not Zolpidem 10mg, as Mirtazapine is also used to treat insomnia. In other words, no careful doctor prescribes two sleeping medications at the same time for the same person..
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Hi @Passerby , thank you for writing here, i have written a long statement but but disappeared, what doctor who cares about the patients well being would leave a patient with such serious insomnia and prescribe him promethazine.
Hi @letitbe , thank you for writing here , im sorry i have written a long statement but it disappeared.0 -
Hello everyone. I have been following this post with huge interest because I am reliant upon, but not addicted to, Zopiclone. I have a very rare illness that, in the UK anyway, can't be diagnosed. However, I was declared disabled because of my invisible illness in 2004. Being declared disabled is a legal term and not a diagnosis. As outlandish as it sounds, I can go without sleep for over a month; not so much as one bit of shut-eye. This puts me in a bad situation with regard to having Zopiclone prescribed, as doctors generally don't like to prescribe it and I have had an awful battle getting it prescribed. I am now allowed 14 X 7.5mg every month, but for reasons I don't understand I have to ask for them; they are not available as a repeat prescription. Also, I don't understand any of the medications that have been discussed in this thread. I am unable to take anti-depressants. I react very badly to them. They have put me on every anti-depressant known to mankind, and I just can't cope with them. It all boils down to my invisible disability. I can't even use something like Germoline.
At one time, before I became physically disabled and unable to walk, I used to go to a resort abroad where I could obtain Zopiclone for 9p each. I am not going to say where the resort was, but it was a luxury destination. So I had a bally good holiday and would buy a hundred Zopiclone at a time for 9p each and bring them home to England and didn't rely on my doctor. But when I became physically disabled and unable to travel, everything changed. I had to rely on a script from my G.P. It was very hard to get and I had umpteen arguments. Eventually they insisted on putting me on an anti-histromene (sorry, I don;t know how to spell anti-histromene) that had a drug called Diphenhydramine and I had a very serious reaction. I went back to my GP the next day and had a serious argument. I wanted to know why they were willing to put me on a drug that had serious side-effects but wouldn't give me Zopiclone? The argument got quite out of hand and I told them I would go to a drug addicts pub and buy them off the street. I am not a young guy anymore and I haven't touched drugs since I was 22. I found the atmosphere in the pub terrifying. I left. I went back to my GP and all hell let loose. They put me on Zopiclone 12 X 7.5mg every month, but they put into the care of a drugs advisor. I saw him for several months. He was happy with me and discharged me from his care. At that point my GP stopped giving me Zopiclone. I had a bad argument. I made it clear they were destroying my peace of mind and that if they had any understanding at all of my invisible illness (which they don't) they would gladly give me the Zopiclone. They agreed they didn't understand and so now I get 14 every month. But it took a lot of arguments and stress to get this far.
The point I want to make is that although I have been taking Zopiclone for well over 25 years (I can't really remember when I started to take it, but it was about the year 2000) I am not addicted. My invisible illness is caused by traffic pollution, which is bad in Central London, and when I could travel abroad and went to coastal regions and deserts (where there is zero traffic pollution), I sleep like a baby and don't take Zopiclone at all. So I know I am not addicted. Sorry about the length of the post!
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Hi.
I wrote to you a relatively long comment a few days ago, but it was deleted, as the {removed content} of this forum said that I was providing medical advice, which was not true at all.
However, yes, herbal sleeping products work and even work wonders. They can give natural sleep that no prescription sleeping tablets could give.
Many people claim that they've tried herbal sleeping products and these didn't work for them, which I believe is absolutely true, as I've experienced this myself. I've been struggling with sleep for many many years and have been trying, testing, and researching all sorts of stuff in relation to sleep.People hear about herbal sleep aids and just go buy them and take them and they don't notice any difference whatsoever, which is a fact.
There's work that needs to be done prior to taking them in order to make them work.
The trouble is that for herbal tablets to work, one's system needs to be cleared of prescription medications, as these are stronger than any herbal stuff. No need to bother wasting your money buying herbal sleep aid until you've decided to reduce your Zopiclone intake and finally quit them. You've to choose between the two. Taking herbal tablets while still taking Zopiclone is just an exercise in futility.I took sleeping tablets, both zopiclone and zolpidem, religiously for over 10 years. I quit them and have since been taking herbal tablets for the past 9 years, and all I can say is that I regret not to have explored herbal medications in the past. Trust me, I've since been sleeping like a baby, while I was extremely lucky if I got 4 hours per night when I was taking prescription sleeping tablets, which have caused me Tinnitus. I'm now planning to also stop taking any herbal products and start training my brain to let me sleep without taking anything whatsoever. Of course it's possible.
I'm not selling any herbal meds, by the way. Why should I bother selling stuff that's widely available for pennies?
Prescription sleeping pills bring more problems than they solve. Unfortunately, many people expect miracles from these medications and want to rely upon them for life for their sleeping problems. While they're only meant for a short period of usually up to 4 weeks.
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Hi @WhatThe , thank you very much , please i would like to also mention that i gave up in real life and i really didn’t describe the things that hurt me and what had happened to me recently in various areas of my life and how i felt about it , Kind regards.
Hi @letitbe , thank you very much , please i would like to write that i was really devastated fighting for every single zopiclone pill and i got traumatised and i was really in Hell Kind regards.
Hi @Passerby , thank you very much , please i would like to mention that i really used non medical medicine, also cooked for a very long period according to traditional Chinese medicine and Chinese 5 elements and i know very well the energy of most food products that a person should use in a balanced diet and well composed meals in terms of energy, and also Ayurvedic herbs ,Please , i would like to also mention ( because you mentioned about training the brain) that im really a person whose brain needs to rest and deserves to rest because i have trained my brain to the limit in my professional work and now i need my brain to rest and being a perfectionist i really trained my brain a lot to achieve the results at work that i achieved and i need a good nights sleep and rest, Kind regards.
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Hi @Passerby , please i would like to mention ( because you mentioned about training the brain) that im a person whose brain deserves to rest and i need a good nights sleep plus rest , and being a perfectionist i trained my brain to the limit in my professional work and now my brain needs to rest , With regard to non medical products in serve insomnia you can believe me that i have used many Ayurvedic herbs , and also cooked for a long period based on Chinese medicine and 5 elements ( the 5 elements reflect the cycle of changes taking place in nature and people) , and i know the energy of most food products , also products needed by a person with a balanced diet , i really learned it from people qualified in this subject, kind regards.
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I am sorry to hear about everyone’s struggles of not being able to sleep. I am in the same boat and know how debilitating this could be . I suffer from chronic insomnia/ fatigue and have tried-and continue to try-all sleep hygiene practices. I’m also on trazodone, as my GP wouldn’t prescribe zopiclone or diazepam for more than two weeks.
I am a big follower of Dr. Matthew Walker and find his tips on micro-sleep/naps quite useful in minimizing the impact of insomnia. I practice this technique after trialing many medications and spending three-fourths of my PIP money on ineffective supplements and gadgets. Although I sometimes fall asleep after taking trazodone, I wake up 30–45 minutes later. Some weeks, I barely get more than 3–5 hours (over the entire week)of sleep.
I have physical disabilities and chronic pain, and everything is impacted by my lack of sleep. I have begged my GP for a sleep study lately, but for some reason, they haven’t budged yet. For me, sleep is my number one priority, as I’ve noticed that when I used to get six hours of uninterrupted sleep, I could self-manage my permanent disabilities, chronic pain, and fatigue much better.
Lately, I have also been extremely stressed due to my benefits being abruptly stopped, and I shudder every time I see any of the trio-Starmer, Reeves, and Kendall,on the news. This absolutely doesn’t help either. I would truly give anything for a good night’s sleep.
I sincerely hope that everyone here struggling with insomnia finds the best way to overcome it, whatever works for you.I truly feel for you all Please take care of yourselves. 🤝0 -
OOh I feel for you have you managed to get your benefits reinstated I felt same with sunak I used to shake feel sick panic attacks I really thought that it was the end that was October 2023 and all my fears didn't happen and have got great comfort from people on here saying it would take years to happen if any changes happen living in constant fear is horrific also learnt from here that most articles being published are click bait scaremongering at the finest really cruel
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I was addicted to night nurse for 20 odd years I just want that feeling of not thinking just quiet mind im on 60 ml of amtriplyine don't touch the side i feel for you if I don't sleep I'm bad must be awful
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My comment, which you're replying to, was not written to you, but to someone else who has enquired to me about herbal medication.
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Wow a month that's like torture sorry to hear this I can imagine you would love a home by sea London worst place to live for traffic t
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"when I could travel abroad and went to coastal regions and deserts (where there is zero traffic pollution), I sleep like a baby and don't take Zopiclone at all. So I know I am not addicted."
In that case, your GP should prescribe you travel grants of 14 days every months for you to travel to coastal regions and deserts, rather than 14 Zopiclone tablets every month, I guess.
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Hi to everyone,
Hi @Steve_in_The_City , thank you so much for writing here , and im sorry about your very rare illness that cannot be diagnosed in the UK, please i would like to confess that i also had battles getting prescribed Zopiclone and yes that’s true that they are not available as repeat prescription, after my last telephone appointment with the doctor when i was really devastated i was given 28 zopiclone tablets , and also i react very badly for ssri antidepressants and cannot take these medications,
Thank you very much for writing about yourself here , and im wishing you a pleasant evening, please take care of yourself ♥️
Kind regards.
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"that’s true that they are not available as repeat prescription"
Any medication can be available on repeat prescription; it's your medical practitioners to decide depending on how often and for how long you need to take a certain medication and, of course, the nature of the ailment for which you're taking it, amongst other factors. And Zopiclone is no exception despite being a controlled drug.
The fact that doctors are quite reluctant to make Z drugs, such as Zopiclone and Zolpidem, available on repeat prescription, is due to the fact that these are designed to be taken for a short period of time to avoid tolerance, which leads to dependence, and side effects.
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Thanks for correcting me , English is my second language and im Polish , and i know that they are available as repeat prescription, i accidentally typed the word “ not”.
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@Catherine21 , thanks for your reply. I haven't got all the benefits re-instated as I've been asked to re-apply for UC50/WCA for getting my LCWRA back .i went through the tiring process of having to fill those horrendously long forms again and awaiting an assessment date.I totally agree with you regarding the scaremongering bit but, However my mind goes on a rollercoaster everytime I hear these trio speak. I hope everything goes well for you and you too manage to get your insomnia sorted .
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Your spelling is amazing I'm English and I can't spell
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