Not had migration letter yet
Hi everyone ,my daughter gets pip ESA ,support group and housing benefit . I'm her appointee ,she has not had a UC migration letter yet ,
Is there still a time scale ,should I ring ESA up to find out or wait for the letter . Just bit worried has I know everyone is migration but it's October now and still haven't had it thanks
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Migration is moving a bit quicker now, but I personally wouldn't do anything (including worry) until the letter arrives. You can see the up to date timetable here
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Hi,
There is no end date for the letters to be sent out at the moment. There are a lot of them so I would expect them to take a few months to reach all ESA & HB claimants.
You get 3 months from the date on the letter to start the migration, so a few days delayed in the post won't really matter.
If you do want to call someone to see if a migration letter has been sent, you should call Universal Credit, as that's where the letters come from, not ESA.
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Migration for those claiming ESA with or without housing benefit only started last month. The timeframe they've given is anytime up to December 2025 so there's plenty of time left yet.
Try not to worry too much, she will eventually receive it. Once the letter is sent they also send regular reminders so there's very little chance of missing the 3 month deadline.
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Thanks every one .
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Yeah, it should be happening in time @rita444, I would try to not be too concerned about it until the letter comes through 🙂
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I get myself worked up often @rita444 on the upcoming move to, yuck 🤢 🤮, the monthly designed UC. The letter can come to me on any day of any week but I hope it’ll be next year and, preferably, well into next year before I receive that letter. I am in rush to do the swap to it, I’m on income related ESA (don’t get housing benefit btw). What aggravates me is the frequency of the pay 💰. I am very much obsessed with it, I have a fixation with the topic, even when I know I can request an Alternative Payment Arrangement when I claim it.
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I am not shifting myself to monthly pay to satisfy the DWP @rita444. I know I should get fortnightly pay granted via an APA but the way UC is structured with the payments, in my personal view it’s done that way with the “aim” of having as many as possible on the single monthly payment. I am not moving to a monthly frequency just for the DWP. My lifestyle, when it comes to money, requires fortnightly payments. They can’t just say to me, “here Chris, here’s £809.64, but you have to budget over an entire month”.
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£809.64 is the amount I’d get on a monthly basis right now on UC @rita444 but that amount would have to be given me under a fortnightly structure, to meet my lifestyle. I don’t have the budgeting skills. In ALL THE YEARS I’ve been on income related ESA (a decade or above), I’ve never had adequate budgeting skills. Some people simply can’t ever budget adequately, and I am absolutely one of those.
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I have often found myself calling 📱📞☎️ up the Help to Claim phone line, set up by Citizens Advice, and the Universal Credit helpline (not the Migration helpline) explaining to advisers my huge inability to budget monthly and get their opinions on an Alternative Payment Arrangement request that I’ll be putting in when I claim. They’ve all made it sound📱 like that I’ll get an APA request granted @rita444 based on lack of ability to budget on a monthly frequency and because it’s linked to my autism.
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At the end of day @rita444 - I have to think of my own requirements, what works for me as the claimant because of my incapability to manage money well. I can’t just move to UC and accept the monthly frequency. The DWP designed it this way to reflect the world of work - workers up and down the UK get their pay packets monthly and can budget on that frequency. I am absolutely, definitely, not one of those sort of individuals that can budget monthly and I don’t care that it was designed to have a “world of work look”.
£809.64 might sound like a lot of money but, as a single lump sum payment, it can’t work for me. I have to see money from UC landing in my bank account more frequently.
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You keep referring to the APA as a fortnightly payments but it is not. Your UC will be paid twice a month and this can mean between 14 and 17 days between payments.
Don't forget that once it's first set up you will be waiting a whole month for your money and then you'll only receive half of that payment, the other half of that payment will be 14 - 17 days later. Therefore it will be a struggle financially at first.
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that’s still roughly every 2 weeks so that’s still good enough for me. To me, that’s still roughly fortnightly and it’s still way better than monthly. I am not accepting the default frequency of monthly which would be ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE for someone that has never, ever been good with money. I have never had the skills.
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I know Alternative Payment Arrangements exist for vulnerable claimants but I absolutely know that the DWP designed UC this way to have as many claimants as possible up and down country living off the default frequency. It’s as if they think all claimants can budget monthly to suit their own agenda 😡😡😤😤👿.
Payments every fortnight, or so, RULE over monthly payments every single time. I am not one of these people who has a job that pays monthly and can live off that. I have to think of my own preferences, not the DWP’s by accepting the default frequency.
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poppy123456wrote:
“Try not to worry too much, she will eventually receive it. Once the letter is sent they also send regular reminders so there's very little chance of missing the 3 month deadline.”
I was reassured to read the above concerning the Universal Credit department sending regular reminders to claimants being transitionally moved from legacy benefits as I was worried that only one letter would be sent and could be, as is often the case where I live, lost in the post. The consequences of such an undelivered letter might not only impact upon the UC claim but upon Housing Benefit and goodness knows what else. It has been stated by the DWP that if a claimant fails to make the UC claim after the three months and one day allowed the legacy benefits would stop. So yes, I am delighted to know that the DWP will send reminder letters to claimants. Many thanks poppy123456.
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I am awaiting a letter for transition from legacy benefits to Universal Credit.
It has been stated on a government website that claimants will have a wait of at least five weeks before receiving the first Universal Credit payment during the transition from legacy benefits. During the five weeks (or longer) wait will my legacy benefits be paid? This includes my income-related employment allowance and housing benefit.
A friend told me, perhaps incorrectly, that during my five weeks or longer wait to receive Universal Credit my legacy benefits will stop after two weeks.
I understand that an advanced payment of Universal Credit can be applied for during the wait. This would not help me much as this money would have to be repaid and would serve to impoverish me as I exist on a tight budget as do many others.
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Your friend is correct, once a claim for UC is submitted Income Related ESA (and housing benefit, if you claim it) will continue for 2 weeks and then stop. This means your wait for your first payment is about 3 weeks, not 5.
If any part of your ESA is contributions based this will continue but at a lower rate of £276.40/fortnight. It will be deducted in full from any UC entitlement.
Yes, you can ask for an advance payment but this does need to be repaid back over a period of up to 2 years.
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Many thanks poppy.
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I am very very confused. My son, who lives with me, receives esa and PIP. It is now January and he has not received any communication from DWP. I am concernced about all this tranfering from one to another. Any suggestions please. Many thanks
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There are still many months for him to receive a migration letter. They will continue to be sent out throughout this year.
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Letters are going out from now up until December. Counting from the date of the letter you then have three months to start the migration process.
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