Not had migration letter yet
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poppy, I'm too tired to look it up but I don't imagine these things..
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DWP send out migration letters but for those claiming Tax credits it will have the HMRC logo at the top.
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I thought you were already claiming UC and you've been claiming it for quite sometime
That was the journal message I got from the DEA managing my UC claim - it supposedly came from ESA as the reason for not linking my claims. ESA confirmed one had not been sent.
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All decisions relating to benefits begin with DWP notifications to those agencies who then send us a letter.
Tax Credits Notices, P45s, Council Tax discounts and exemptions, Housing Benefit entitlement, Child Benefit entitlement is all determined by DWP.
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That is not correct. The benefits you mentioned there are not related to DWP. P45's come from DWP if you've claimed a benefit such as New Style ESA/JSA or the old contributions based ESA/JSA.
Tax credits and child benefit are HMRC. Housing benefit and council tax reduction and exemption are local Authority.
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OOh Me too could spend all in a day no self control
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P45's come from DWP if you've claimed a benefit such as New Style ESA/JSA or the old contributions based ESA/JSA.
That's not correct. They are sent by HMRC.
Entitlement to HB or CTR is determined by DWP as I said. It may be calculated at a local level (being local government) but all such decisions are determined by DWP.
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If you stop claiming ESA or JSA during the tax year, DWP will issue you with a form P45(U) or P45 (ESA) showing the sums paid to you by DWP during the tax year as well as income paid and tax deducted from previous jobs. You should give this to any new employer.
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That P45 is sent by HMRC on HMRC headed paper.
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I've just checked some physical paperwork I have access to. Yes, it's on letter headed HMRC paper, but it is sent by DWP along with a seperate letter from DWP. Same posting reference and return address on the envelopes (both DWP).
It's the same when you receive one from an employer. Although it's a HMRC document, it's the employer who provide you with this.
Hope this clarifies any confusion.
Best wishes,
Holly.
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All decisions relating to benefits begin with DWP notifications to those agencies who then send us a letter.
Tax Credits Notices, P45s, Council Tax discounts and exemptions, Housing Benefit entitlement, Child Benefit entitlement is all
determinedby DWP.It is all DWP is my point, not who sends the letters!
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Please also check what I've said about HMRC being merged with DWP.
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They are not all DWP. HMRC and a local Authority are not DWP. Where are you getting this information from, I'd be interested to know.
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18 years' worth of documents based on DWP decisions.
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Hi @WhatThe and @poppy123456
I think the misunderstanding might be that @WhatThe is referring to DWP as a separate entity, but the one that acts as the initial contact for most people. Although they refer certain aspects to alternative authorities such as local councils for a decision when it falls within their remit to make such decision, such as a local council for HA.
I think it's great we're all passionate about this, because we care. I just want to make sure that this doesn't escalate, and we keep respectful of one another. I hope this can be chalked down to interpretation, and we can move on.
Best wishes! 🙂
Holly
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Hello @WhatThe.
This is an interesting topic, and I’ve been doing some reading on it. From what I understand, the Local Housing Allowance (LHA) rates and entitlement rules are set by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) based on government legislation. However, the actual calculations for housing benefit and council tax support, as well as individual decisions on claims for these benefits, are handled locally by council authorities. These councils then reclaim the relevant funds from the DWP.
So, you are correct that all the funding originates from the DWP, along with the overarching entitlement rules. However, the individual applications, decisions, and administration of housing benefit and council tax support are managed by local councils.
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the actual calculations for housing benefit and council tax support, as well as individual decisions on claims for these benefits, are handled locally by council authorities.
Yes, I said as much on the comment which was removed.
Thank you.
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@Morgan_Scope thank you, I appreciate that.
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Oops, sorry @WhatThe, I hadn't seen that and it looks like we'd accidentally removed the wrong message. I've restored your previous one and can see you have clarified:
"Entitlement to HB or CTR is determined by DWP as I said. It may be calculated at a local level (being local government) but all such decisions are determined by DWP."
I think all of our different ways of wording things can cause some confusion sometimes! No harm done.
I've moved our other discussion to a new discussion so we don't have a big back and forth on this post and will look over them now. 😊
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