Economic inactivity: welfare and long-term sickness Oral evidence live 3pm 12/11/24
Tomorrow - 12 November at 3pm - Oral evidence will be given at a Parliamentary Committee meeting on welfare and long term sickness benefits. The meeting can be viewed live via the following link. Thought it useful for our Community to know - keeping informed is empowering.
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https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/83561351-68a6-4793-8704-fd3aaa2339c4
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Thanks for sharing the link @JonnycJonny I'll certainly be tuning in. 😊
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What did they say ? Pls
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link to complete committee video if anyone wants to watch
(I really don’t want to listen and report back on 2 hrs of this stuff - I know a lot of this stuff is not easy to understand but any member can watch the below link and write down the time stamp to any part that they need explaining, clarifying or an second opinion on because what’s been said has worried you) - I always feel compelled to do it as so much misinformation is posted on scope and I know that I will try and find the direct source rather than a media report
https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/a3b3d338-fd31-4b72-ab5f-e5c926544e32
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OOh God no can't watch even the title sends chills down my spine are you going to watch
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nearest to a summary that I could find without listening to the whole video - screenshots from twitter
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Thankyou what do you make of it all there was a lady who worked for dwp who said you can try work without fear of losing benefit and those who don't choose to do so may be reassessed why they given it in dribs and drabs !!! What happens if ellen clifford wins j
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So rely on work coaches to make choices you can work ???? I knew the reason rushed migration to get us all on system and keep offering work work work so if work coaches decide you can work and something bad happens will dwp be liable or job centre
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well done yet again the only information i read or take notice of
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What do you make of this I don't understand
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Let's remember that his comments on this information are opinion and speculation.
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i make nothing of it i will have forgot what i have read by tomorrow no good fretting over what could or could not happen till it happens
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Very very true
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I’m only an hr in, got another hr to listen to on and off the rest of this evening
I’ll post timestamps corresponding to specific topics later
I will say that I think I’m going to have to play devils advocate later on if this committee continues down the same tone the last hour.
I don’t think many people on the scope forum are looking at the bigger long term picture of all this
Some Members begged the rest of us to blindly vote Labour regardless of the risk of a huge majority and now are less willing to take the consequences
the reality is that if the kemikaze/stride ticket last till the next Ge they have a good chance of winning (and/or reform could make huge gains) as Labour have upset 100’s of thousands of voters with the autumn budget and 1st 100 days and honestly I don’t know if they be forgiven by the next GE
There is one thing I’m 100% - a kemikaze/stride and/or farage gov will threaten the lives of countless disabled ppl and make starmer/reeves/kendall viewpoints and policy look like child’s play imo
In my mind as things stand political party current leadership wise the disabled will still be better off next ge with a Labour gov or Labour/lib Dem(+greens) coalition
But Labour need to win back the trust of voters and that’s probably coming down to 3 controversial areas they need to improve if they have any chance:
- the migrant/boat situation needs to significantly lower
- The nhs needs to improve and run properly (and still free of use for the most part)
- the welfare bill needs to go significantly down
now Many of the public want disabled to be hit with massive benefit cuts and/or kicked off altogether and unfortunately many papers are stirring up this blood spiting viewpoint as huge amounts of those in work suffered from the autumn budget but on paper it looks like those on welfare (those claiming to be ‘disabled’) got off stock free (though we know the truth is our time is coming and we weren’t forgotten at all) - which isn’t ‘fair’ as all uk citizens should be equally miserable
the question is can Labour come up with a way to lower the welfare bill without threatening mass poverty, ill health or worse?It comes down to what price is each disabled person willing to pay to keep the Tory’s/reform out at the next GE in 2028/29 and actually have a chance of an okay existence?
Reading around the forum I do think many scope posters are being unrealistic in saying there’s zero they can contribute to society (but still want to receive welfare no q’s asked) and unwilling to recognise the moments when what a politican is saying may have truth in it and may be perceived as reasonable if carry out the ‘right’ way
I’ll comment on the whole video once I’ve viewed it all but I do think the disabled community needs to figure out where to compromise, what asks from Kendall & co could be possible under the right circumstances and what battles we need to direct our energies to2 -
So i have watched half and they are NOT going ahead with torie proposals they are making there own
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So does that mean it will have to go through house of lords because racheal reeves was saying they will follow tories plans
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Well liz kendall says they are making there own she actually seems like a nice person i don't know why every 1 is saying she is evil
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Just read there's a bill going through now about getting rid of hereditary peers from The house of lords what does this mean
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Ah OK thats sounds reasonable x
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They are but also remember for a decade or so it is well known Liz Kendall thinks like this, her opinion is of no one should be written of and everyone should be making an effort to get back into employment, she also has a similar mindset to Tories in its down to the individual to improve themselves.
WCA/ESA reform is coming, that bit is not speculation, the guy has obviously been putting pieces together to draw a logical conclusion on what is coming, there is nothing wrong with that.
He is very likely right the issue with Labour is they are not happy with so many people not engaging with the DWP. Kendall's predecessor gave a public quote saying the same thing only 2 winters ago.
The problem with the DWP is they think support means mandating activities, so "inviting" people to engage, making things voluntarily would require a culture shift from them.
I wont comment on what I think the possibilities are though as its my opinion based on what I heard. Just leaving at that changes are coming that will be aimed at reducing LCWRA exemption.
Kendall is also still refusing to meet up with charities or any claimants individually (unless its a charity that supports her mindset, or affiliated with the Labour party), another sign something unpopular is coming.1
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