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  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 719 Empowering

    Ok

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 719 Empowering

    So an update.I called in to pip and they have received my M.r letter.I spoke to the call handler and he said a decision maker will look at it.I told him to tell the decision maker that they must contact my GP as there is updated diagnosis,medication and the councilling which is to be added.Plus I wanted them to know that even if they still turn me down the impact that this has had on my health based on my previous medical history which only they can confirm.I also detailed how disappointed I was by the assessor the errors in the report and the fact that there were things totally unrelated to me.I have just received a text to say they will make a decision within 15 weeks.So as we seem to expect here on scope it'll be a no,so I'll take it from there.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing

    Sorry, I only just seen this. Thank you! Happy New Year to you too!

    They very rarely contact anyone for any evidence. The onus is on you to make sure you provide any relevant evidence you have to prove you qualify, not theirs.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 719 Empowering

    It's odd isn't it that they rarely contact Gps.I know we have to say how our illnesses affect us and it's not about having a 'diagnosis'.But the way I see it,for an.example if you cut your hand off there are obvious consequences of pain etc.Common sense tells the assessor with some of my diagnosis that the pain or discomfort I'm experiencing equates with what I'm describing.If they are supposedly medically trained then they would know this.I was completely honest in my assessment to perhaps stupid levels.Maybe I 'shouldn't ' have told her I managed to take my son on holiday.Or perhaps the problem is I left out the traumatic parts.Either way There is a flaw in the system or perhaps it's me.I know I'm very flawed,very over analytical,anxious etc.But Atleast I know what to expect now ( kind of).'We have looked at your claim again and our decision remains the same etc etc'

  • Bluebell21
    Bluebell21 Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 11,666 Championing

    Hi @Jane315STARX Please try not to worry about this. MR does have a low success rate.

    You might have to go to Tribunal. The Tribunal is generally made up of 3 people sitting at a table ( the judge, the disability specialist and someone from the DWP ). The judge is there to listen to both sides of the case, they are impartial and not linked to the DWP at all.

    You are not very flawed try not to think of yourself like that.

    You have another appointment with your GP on the 6 January perhaps talk to him about how all this is making you feel.

    Please take care of yourself.

  • curiousspin
    curiousspin Online Community Member Posts: 14 Connected

    Hi Jane I'm sorry to hear this and I can understand how your feeling with certain things. In my opinion dwp (pip) is a set up to fail system for most certainly in my curcumstance anyway and many others. They lied twisted my words completely! the report nd decision i got was unreal they denied me on the basis of what the original lying assesor had put. I went for mandatory reconsideration they denied me that too on the basis of what the original assesor had said which was complete lies bearing in mind i complained about her too and sent more evidence to prove this! I have now been waiting for the tribunal date for near on 12 months... I have provided them with all the information needed and what is great the things they said I didn't have or struggle with is in black and white and they will be outed for what they are.. sorry for the rant.. also it's not good to hear that you have no family or friends to help as this can be very stressful and we all need a friend .. I'm not sure if you can privately message on here but if you need any help or just a chat feel free.

  • curiousspin
    curiousspin Online Community Member Posts: 14 Connected

    This is exactly what they want they make it so difficult for people that are already struggling people just give up!! Don't give up take your time and get what you should.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 719 Empowering

    @curiousspin I'm sorry you have been through such a nightmare and still going through it.Its nice to know I'm not alone.it appears another under current not disimular to the scandals that have gone before ( not naming any inparticurly) but you get my drift.I just wish I had my brains and health of 20 years ago to help me fight this as my mind and health may be the thing that let's me down.Ironic as it is

  • durhamjaide2001
    durhamjaide2001 Scope Member Posts: 13,826 Championing

    they have to make it so hard so people don't take advantage of the system

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 719 Empowering

    There is an article online today stating that thousands of people have had their pip benefit stopped.This makes no sense either if they still qualify and meet the criteria.

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 9,784 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Can I ask where you saw this article please @Jane315STARX ? There's a lot of sites that are less that reputable out there who are putting out inaccurate information to get clicks.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 719 Empowering

    It's just occurred to me that many years ago ( when I was rejected for pip after having Dla) I dont remember having seen my report.I imagine there must of been one but I wasnt mentally well enough to even know about it or follow things through.But im guessing what ever that said has still got on things today based on what someone else has told me on here.Which is even more ridiculously unfair.The assessor said that she made her decision using information about my health condition (not plural) including details of treatment medication test results and symptoms.This simply cannot be true aside from discussing my medication she didn't ask about symptoms or test results. My GP has no knowledge of anyone contacting them in relation to my personal record.The assessor was knowledgeable about one of my illnesses and perhaps she is using me generically which is unfair.Also why award me Dla for years if I meet the criteria but not award pip when I still have the same condition and actually other illnesses.I just don't understand

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 719 Empowering

    @Albus_Scope yes it was Leeds live.It came up as a suggestion on my phone

  • Billiegoat
    Billiegoat Online Community Member Posts: 18 Connected

    Hi Jane

    I can see its very stressful and you have said you are alone with this.

    I don't know your age but see if you can contact a benefits advice agency, citizens advice bureau or someone like Age UK for help.

    Speaking from personal experience it can be difficult to do something like this alone. It might be helpful to try and take the emotion out of it. The emotion can make you ruminate on the problem and it just makes it worse. You might benefit from having someone help who can help you look at it in the cold light of day otherwise this will just go round and round in your head.

    I hope this post doesn't offend or upset, its not my intention, just trying to help.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing

    DLA and PIP are both completely different benefits, with different criteria. DLA was about day and night time care needs, PIP is about the descriptors and scoring points, if you meet those descriptors. Being entitled to DLA doesn't mean you're entitled to PIP. I'm not saying you're not entitled to PIP of course because I don't know exactly how your conditions affect you.

    I do think however, that you should try your best to move on from what's happened in the past because being stuck there isn't going to help you move forward with fighting this PIP decision.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 719 Empowering

    Oh I didn't know that actually and you are completely right it's not helpful my dwelling on the past.I will take this advice.Sometimes it's helpful to hear what you need to from someone who makes sense

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 719 Empowering

    I was given some advice this morning from a pip advisor from my Dr Surgery.This was that the M.R letter I sent off was basically not good enough and I was reliant on them to contact my g.p which they wouldn't do.So I have now sent off my medical summary which apparently helps.Atleast I feel like I've done something useful.Apparently a full one would take 28 days so I sent this but it's 133 pages long so I'm hoping it'll cover what they need and nowhere does it say that I need a Warning card like it said in the assessors report.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing

    133 pages? blimey, that's an awful lot to read. Did you read through before you sent it? Less if often more when it comes to evidence. I always say, if it's not relevant do you need to send it and sending multiple pieces of evidence all saying the same thing isn't helpful.

    Please put the assessors report behind you because it's not going to help.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 719 Empowering

    I started reading the first page which stated current diagnoses then list of previous etc then following page obviously list of medications.I skimmed through the next to see what they all were and it appeared to be when I have had tests,been in to hospital,some very vital back ground history ( I think) which will demonstrate that what I have put in mandatory consideration basically matches. Although I'm under no illusion that they'll still say no as I've read every post and thread on here relating to this subject now and on the Internet and percentage is beyond low.I just felt that it was extremely unfair how I have been treated aside from not being awarded that I the report was factually incorrect in places and I feel my trust totally broken.But I have taken your good advice in board Poppy and I have moved on from that Report and this is my way of dealing with it I suppose.Yesterday I felt able to function completely normally

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 719 Empowering

    I thought I'd best send them all as it said pages 1-133 and I didn't know what the protocol was.I thought incase they requested the other pages and to save holding up more time I'd send the whole bundle