PIP discussion on GMTv 8am

Jane315STARX
Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 469 Empowering

They are discussing pip at 8am approximately at 8am with one of the ministers on Good Morning Britain on ITV if anyone is interested

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  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 2,807 Championing

    cheers Jane 💜

  • Vogue
    Vogue Online Community Member Posts: 39 Connected

    Yes I am watching GMTV I'm abit confused if PIP is non means tested which means not Taxable

    Why are they Targeting it ?

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 469 Empowering

    Brilliant 👏.

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 2,807 Championing

    why's she banging on about work?

    PIP is Nothing to do with work.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,406 Empowering

    Non mean-tested benefits can be taxable. For example, the State Pension and CB-ESA. PIP is not currently taxable but that might be a way ahead.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 469 Empowering

    She said the Pip system isn't working and U.C system isn't working? And yes you are correct she mentioned Work.They definitely want as many people as possible to get back into to work.Then say "but we will listen to the voices of the disabled "

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,406 Empowering

    Even in Opposition, Labour was beginning to "forget" that PIP has nothing to do with employment status. I can't work out their game.

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 2,807 Championing

    well good luck to her when she realises reality doesn't come within miles of their fantasies.

    If everything isn't voluntary I can see Ellen Clifford or someone else waving at them across courtroom again.

    judges overall are very protective of our rights

  • Vogue
    Vogue Online Community Member Posts: 39 Connected

    Yes as usual avoided the Crucial Question as they always do on cutting pip or not

    Plus on Line Shopping is a massive factor

    Within 5 to 10 years time there will be no Vacancies

    Due to on line Shopping

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 2,807 Championing

    Yes and this AI stuff.

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 37 Empowering

    I just watched her on GMB and am still no clearer as to what exactly they are planning to do, again very vague just like always. Are they only targeting fraudsters or will they be snooping on all our bank accounts at all times? The most worrying thing was her answer towards PIP, or her non answer about cutting the benefit, to which she said could not be ruled out. It seems this awful government are hell bent on taking away benefits and PIP payments from those who need and deserve it most, even though they say they're listening to disabled people and charities, what a load of lies. It's all about cutting the welfare bill and nothing to do with genuinely helping sick and disabled back into work, disgusting policy, disgusting right wing labour government.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 469 Empowering

    I think they can use that word so easily 'Voluntarily' because there comes a point where you have no choice?

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 2,807 Championing
    edited January 22

    It has to be voluntary, anything else is harassment or discrimination.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 469 Empowering

    I know their focus has to be about the stability of the countries economy.But health is key to everything in life and the Dwp is very flawed when people are not seen to have the disabilities they have and treated accordingly.It is even worse when you have fight through a system and navigate it with health problems whilst the Government decides the possibilities of taking these very things away without even being clear,leaving everyone guessing.

  • Jane315STARX
    Jane315STARX Online Community Member Posts: 469 Empowering

    @Kimmy87 yes maybe they might leave it right till the very last minute

  • sprinkly
    sprinkly Online Community Member Posts: 26 Connected

    Its a subject that infuriates most people, it's almost like they can't get the fit,abled lazy blighters to take jobs, so let's start on the disabled, ****.. the amount of migrants ect coming into the country claiming benefits+ get housing of sorts ( not all)

    Get them working, get the lazy fit people working first.

    The whole thing is a mess.

    They are approaching in the wrong way, they should be investigating and overhauling the system first before targeting the disabled. Though I do agree there are many claiming that shouldn't be, so get that sorted first, clean up the system first, get it right, ..

  • tomwalker
    tomwalker Online Community Member Posts: 47 Contributor
  • tomwalker
    tomwalker Online Community Member Posts: 47 Contributor

    They have been ordered to save money from those currently disabled regardless...they keep saying they'll consult with disabled but they are obsessed with getting people into work I.e blocking the benefit