PIP discussion on GMTv 8am
Comments
-
Thats what I said pip no means tested but I've been hearing rumour they want to to means test it 😡
0 -
Oh they just want to cut the bill and have decided that disabled on PIP are fraudsters or shirkers and should work...they are totally focussed becuase it would solve the fact they cant create jobs by msking it the fault of disanled...its tragic
0 -
I don't think they will cut or stop pip.I think they are changing the descriptors making it EVEN harder to qualify in the first place.Those who are not already on pip who have been rejected like myself although who are long term sick and disabled will be 'urged' to 'volunteer' to work.Work coaches via the U.c system and local authorities will 'Support' disabled people by engaging regularly and 'listening' to their views and voices and making sure they are heard and valued.I think those who have mental health problems who have not engaged with a support worker will be assigned one and talking therapy for an alloted time with the end remit being a work placement.( just my thoughts)
1 -
The means-test could remove PIP from many working people and actually prevent them from working. It would begger me because I live off PIP, CB-ESA, and my savings.
0 -
@Kimmy87 I inclined to think they're out of their depth and don't have a clue how to proceed especially with PIP.
There's no mention of changes to DLA for children or AA for OAPs and those costs have risen too. It is senseless for a 16 year old to come off DLA and not to receive adequate PIP. It could determine whether or not a young claimant can work. Older claimants might choose to drop their claim and apply for AA.
I often think of the most disabled people I've known. Nothing could reduce their financial needs or get them into work.
1 -
Thanks for sharing this @Jane315STARX. I'm going to try and find it on catch up after I finish work. 🙂
0 -
Just seen a clip on Youtube. Sam Renke made some good points. The government and the DWP want more disabled people in work, but they need to invest in infrastructure to make work accessible for disabled people.
plus, PIP helps disabled people who are in work, actually get to work.
0 -
Vogue would you be able to provide the source from the government saying PIP may be means tested or is this speculation? I would like make a reference to it when writing to my MP. Many thanks.
0 -
What did they say i seen part of checking accounts can take phone laptops search your house if suspected fraud now we know dwp dont play fair how many innocent people get caught in this has this passed been in bed 3 days feel for dogs i cant move and also having pets dwp say you can work god pls give us a break its unbearable they have broke me
0 -
It's a rumour I heard so there's no solid proof as yet I'm hoping it is a speculation 🤞
0 -
So basically it's an opinion not an actual fact at the moment?
0 -
Just listened to that GMB clip .... All I keep hearing about these bank checks are " we will work with banks to make sure claimants meet the eligibility criteria for receiving Thier benefits" what does that even mean , it gives them a pretty wide scope to check anything they want really 🤷
1 -
They have declared they will make 3 billion savings regardless...so they'll have to change who gets it..everything else is hot air…the vast majority of new claimants are mental health..so they'll disallow that and other descriptors by removing them and put the onus on the claimant.. who may be very ill I deed...they'll offer no or little support becuase it costs and claim they checked with dusabled peoples needs
1 -
My opinion, and its only an opinion, if the DWP want to get disabled people back into work, then who will pay for the adaptions to allow this to happen?
The way forward as far as the government is concerned is to get people to "volunteer" there hours or skills at no cost to them….. Sounds harsh? But how many people around the country are caring for loved ones or children unpaid? and untrained? Assessments are completed by assessment companies because they are not medical assessments, so how can your opinion of what you think an outcome of a spacific disablement can be if you have no medical background?
Just a thought……
And I also saw the news this morning, found it quite interesting as to where these jobs are going to come from. Also for people in my neck of the woods (Cardiff) Sir Dr. Frank Atherton Health Minister (I think that was his title) is stepping down. Are we getting close again……
1 -
I saw Andy Haldane (Economist) being interviewed for Sky yesterday and although he didn't touch on this particular subject.Alot of what he was saying did make a lot of sense.Taking myself as an example,I am not a healthy fit disabled person.He said that businesses would be looking to employ healthy people ( which obviously makes sense).By the government trying to steer people who are too ill or perhaps maybe like myself too unhealthy too work is not the greatest idea.I know we haven't as yet even seen the proposals yet and are anticipating alot of what is to be in the format.But we all know the likely hood of some changes because of the situation we are in.
0
Categories
- All Categories
- 14.3K Start here and say hello!
- 6.8K Coffee lounge
- 70 Games den
- 1.6K People power
- 103 Community noticeboard
- 22.1K Talk about life
- 5.1K Everyday life
- 70 Current affairs
- 2.2K Families and carers
- 828 Education and skills
- 1.8K Work
- 445 Money and bills
- 3.4K Housing and independent living
- 902 Transport and travel
- 663 Relationships
- 65 Sex and intimacy
- 1.4K Mental health and wellbeing
- 2.3K Talk about your impairment
- 846 Rare, invisible, and undiagnosed conditions
- 894 Neurological impairments and pain
- 1.9K Cerebral Palsy Network
- 1.2K Autism and neurodiversity
- 36K Talk about your benefits
- 5.6K Employment and Support Allowance (ESA)
- 18.5K PIP, DLA, and AA
- 6.7K Universal Credit (UC)
- 5.1K Benefits and income