Upcoming changes to benefits
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To add to this @apple85 I done some calcs for LCWRA to be cut and the figures in my opinion show why they are making such a big issue out of the PIP freeze to hide the fact that a cut to LCWRA would save them alot more, basically trying to fool everyone!
LCWRA rate 2025/26 (1.7% rise from 2024/2025)
Monthly - £416.19
Yearly - £4994.28
*LCWRA figures below based on 2025/26 rates - "% cut by, what you would get monthly, ((how much has been deducted) x 1.8 million claimants) = how much saved that month in millions"Monthly rate
LCWRA cut 25% = £311.69 ((-£104.05) x 1.8m = £187,290,000
LCWRA cut 34% = £274.69 ((-£141.50) x 1.8m = £254,700,000
LCWRA cut 50% = £208.09 ((-£208.10) x 1.8m = £360,180,000*LCWRA figures below based on 2025/26 rates - "% cut by, what you would get that year, ((how much has been deducted) x 1.8 million claimants) = total saved that year in billions"
Yearly rate
LCWRA cut 25% = £3745.71 ((-£1248.57) x 1.8m) = £2,247,426,000
LCWRA cut 34% = £3296.18 ((-£1698.10) x 1.8m) = £3,056,580,000
LCWRA cut 50% = £2497.14 ((-£2497.14) x 1.8m) = £4,494,852,000A 34% cut to LCWRA which has been touted would save over £3 BILLION but as your math shows they would only stand to save £632.7 million by freezing PIP for a year, even at 25% they would still get nearly 4 times more than the PIP freeze in one year!
Now imagine those figures over 3 years! Without even adding for inflation they would stand to save nearly 7 BILLION over 3 years by cutting LCWRA wereas over 3 years of a PIP freeze would only bring in £3.873 billion!
This in my opinion is why they know they can stop the freeze for PIP making it look good but still save alot more by cutting LCWRA!
Also its been mentioned that they want to save £6 billion A YEAR so even if it was a 50% cut and PIP was frozen it would still only add up to £5.12 billion so weres the extra £900 million coming from, changes to criteria forcing people off PIP and LCWRA? I would love to see their math for saving £6 billion a year?
If I'm incorrect in my math please let me know so I can learn from it :)If the math is correct then people need to tell their MPs and whomever else that needs told that they are not fooling anyone!
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I hope you are OK @Meg24 , I woke at 1am and cannot sleep now, it's all so stressful. I'm just going to go and make a nice cup of tea and I'm trying to breath deeply to not stress so much.
Please ring for help if you need to, 111 or 999 - chest pain shouldn't just be left. I get twinges sometimes and don't do anything about it but they pass and I've just had pneumonia / got emphysema so I put it down to that and it always is just that for me but 111 can advise you.
I've put the tv on but it's the news so might turn it over🤭😅 will it help you to make a warm drink? I've just remembered I've got some hot chocolate which I drink very rarely, I might go and get that as a treat. We need to look after ourselves as very best we can, things will become clearer very very soon and we're all here for each other, you're not on your own ❤️
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Thankyou, I get a lot of random body pains, it's one of the ways my MH asserts itself when I'm distressed, I've also had a massive headache and raging IBS since this whole thing started. I've had chest pains before xx
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I understand, my IBS is the bane of my life along with everything else it's no wonder our bodies take a battering, mentally, with all that's going on too glad it's not a medical emergency (I'm a nurse, or was, it's my go to thought sorry!) but still sorry it's affecting you.
One 'answer' I came up with earlier (it's not a sensible one 🙄) is if/when my benefits reduce I'll send my gas, electric and water bills directly to Reeves and tell her to sort them out. I'll probably do that just for the hell of it when the time comes. but seriously, things always have a way of working out, somehow, they just do.
I think this Scope is a good safe place to come to, it does make me feel a bit less isolated and I'm not completely alone in all this.
I hope you manage to get some sleep xx
Ps if I had a bath I'd go and have one but I've not got one so that's that 😅
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Does anyone know how they're going to tighten the eligibility for PIP. Will the descriptors change?
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@worried33 you'd be forgiven for thinking I'd somehow stumbled over some internal document especially as the https address seemed a bit odd but I've not - I made sure before posting it is definitely for 'public consumption', there's references for instance to Probationary periods which are stated as 6 months plus added 3 months occasionally but for internal applicants that's waived. Maybe we should ALL apply requesting the full flexibility we'd need 🤗 There's an irony I feel somewhere in all this as in the expectation that other employers should employ us who are sick and/or disabled, but they wouldn't.
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I don't know for sure sorry but someone has posted somewhere on here about descriptors but can't remember what they were or who posted so sorry it's gonna be a trawl through all these posts 😬 I think some descriptors were mentioned? Washing top half of self ? If can't do 4 points and bottom half doesn't get points and cooking no points if can use a microwave. I think 🤔 😕 🙄
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Another sleepless night 😥 I won't survive with LCWRA being cut 😭
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Thanks for the info Santosha. Much appreciated
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I feel like the government is trying every possible tactic to strip benefits from disabled people, and the latest one seems to be the “Right to Try Guarantee” proposed by Liz Kendall. To be honest, I don’t see this as a positive move at all. It feels like a cunning strategy to push disabled people into work, only for them to be left in limbo when their health deteriorates due to a lack of reasonable adjustments—while the government gradually takes away their benefits.I don’t believe a word this government says, especially Kendall, Reeves, and Starmer. From this point on, I suspect every move will come with a hidden agenda to strip people of their benefits.We ought to be cautious!!That’s just my take on it—what do you all think?
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Cooking is to do with preparing and cooking a one course main meal safely, reliably, when you need to, and in a timely fashion.
A meal involves ingredients. Can you chop a carrot safely? Can you lift items? Can you stand or sit long enough to prep them for cooking be it in a conventional cooker or microwave?
It's not just about putting a ready meal in the microwave. Even that has it's hazards. Can you lift the container in and out of the microwave without spillage and risk of burns.
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Oral Questions to DWP Front Bench in the Commons this afternoon from 2.30 pm. Listen out for the "topical questions" from 3.15 pm.
BBC Parliament is Channel 232 on Freeview. It's also on BBC IPlayer.
https://whatson.parliament.uk/event/cal50837
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Whoever voted this awful government in?
I certainly didn't.
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People desperate to get rid of the Tories.
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Yes and now they are desperate to get rid of Liebour who are far worse.
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F***ING hell , another day in the trenches 😫.... Roll on tomorrow , we need to know what's what
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BBC Radio Scotland reporting the DWP said 'no one is available' when they asked someone to come on. Suggests that, even at this late stage, they still don't know for sure what they're going to announce tomorrow.
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On BBC breakfast had a woman on from the treasury saying it wasn't sustainable etc she was very arragont. Just off topic , on talk tv, Starmer on about smashing the gangs , people smugglers etc. Well one is in a 4 star hotel at £180 a night.
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I doubt any of us could guessed the extent of the cruelty.
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I disagree.
I never trusted and Starmer and his cronies one little bit.
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