Upcoming changes to benefits

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 375 Pioneering

    she needs to back to customer complaints, those phones won’t answer themselves.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 375 Pioneering

    I thought they were reducing lcwra and increasing basic rate . Then elsewhere I read there won’t be wca so no lcwra . We all have to engage and it’s to the work coach to decide how much we are capable of . This of course can’t be legal or safe as even assessors need some medical knowledge if I’m right. Not only that but if they’re forcing sick ppl to engage with work but cut our money we will surely just be placed on basic rate as looking for work and get the higher rate then . So where the savings be ? Hope that makes sense .

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,732 Empowering
    edited March 17

    They're certainly not Labour Party I joined and paid into. I want a refund! Labour isn't socialist or vaguely social-democratic now. They are well to the right of Thatcher's "wets". I think you're correct. There'll be more tinkering after Oral Questions in the House this afternoon.

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 95 Empowering

    I can't listen to that women speak, if my tv wasn't so new i'd have thrown my cup of coffee at it yesterday, but price of coffee is too expensive too so I just sat and fumed at her horrible grating daleck voice. Is she even human , iv'e heard shes from the planet Skaro where the dalecks are from……..exterminate(disabled people probably)🤣

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,351 Trailblazing

    @charlie72

    I agree.

    She is an awful woman with a smug look on her face.

  • Maggie37
    Maggie37 Online Community Member Posts: 35 Contributor

    😂 Remember when they first got in and they were accepting freebies right , left and centre! Showing off their new outfits in press shoots and taking tickets to concerts and footie matches. We should have known what was going to happen…!

  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 5 Contributor

    if they make me attend a job centre to see a work coach I will probably have to crawl on the floor and end up in hospital.

  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 156 Contributor

    Does anyone know if Poppy12345 is still a member on here?

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 84 Empowering

    I think maybe they do for PIP.

    I thought you were talking about being reviewed for LCWRA, as on my award letter for LCWRA it has no review date, it just says we may ask you to attend another work capability assessment in the future.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 375 Pioneering

    all 3 psychopaths . Starmer definitely. His behind this mr flip flop persona and ppl fell for it . Once in office the real him came out . No empathy or personality. The other two just joined the wrong party , guess the Tory’s didn’t want them .

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 84 Empowering

    It's like on the one hand they think mental health is important, and then on the other it's like they think mental health is nothing.

  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 156 Contributor
    edited March 17

    I have a UC claim review this Thursday via phone; you'll likely get one at some point.

    Had to send in 4 months of bank statements

  • ThirtySixteen
    ThirtySixteen Online Community Member Posts: 34 Connected

    This is still green paper stage and whatever is announced tomorrow, no matter how watered down will need to go to white paper and consultation and then through legislation.
    This in itself could take months to years.

    THEN, I’m pretty sure there will be quite a few legal challenges which I highly suspect will see it either scrapped or watered down even further.

    I’m not saying I’m not worried, I AM!
    I have a wife on LCWRA and a son just about to go from DLA to PIP.
    This could affect my family severely and force us in to poverty.

    But there’s a part of me that’s able to relax because I really think that it won’t end up as bad as we are all fearing.

  • raspberrysorbet66
    raspberrysorbet66 Online Community Member Posts: 18 Connected

    I scored 2 points on all of the proposed description changes for pip, 8 for engagement - my review was sent off in spring last year, I got a letter saying that they were extending my reward until March 2026 because they were still collecting evidence or whatever it was - am I right in thinking that actually they have done this to wait for the changes to come into effect and take aaay my award completely? I haven’t eaten in days, I haven’t slept. I haven’t moved out of bed. I’ve lost hours of time dissociated I’ve done nothing but ruminate - I will not, will not be able to cope, I honestly feel like I may aswell just end it now and save myself the stress and the government their money so as to not be seen as a leech to society.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,351 Trailblazing
  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 882 Championing

    no your maths is exactly right

    Cutting lcwra award by 25% is more lucrative to the dwp than a pip freeze (though as I showed the saving for that improve with every consecutive year)

    However there’s one thing you haven’t stated

    (one thing I learnt this week - journalists and politicians suck at maths and statistics)

    A 1 year pip freeze would cost each claimant £3.50 a week (and it’s technically not reducing award amount)

    Cutting 25% from the lcwra would cost each claimant about £20 a week (and as I said a cut looks much worse on paper then a freeze)


    this is from the guardian polities live text

    ”a load shared is a load halved”

    The quickest and ‘fairest’ way for the treasury to get ‘quick money’ from incapacity benefits is a lcwra and/or pip freeze (if starmer/reeves/kendalls hadn’t verbally tried to throw the whole disabled community there may have been an option for the dwp via the uc journal to ask if those with any transactional protection would be open to a voluntary reduction of £10 to £50 a month dependant on what the claimant could of spared - I would of been open to it if the dwp were showing real signs of listening and working with disabled but I don’t feel inclined to help fill another one of labour leadership’s black hole and not really open to compromise until the disabled community get an apology from Kendall/reeves/starmer/dwp about (what is essentially) bullying, smearing and scapegoating this community has had to endure from minister quotes to the constant media pieces that gov insiders are very obviously feeding the far right papers)

    Fair welfare reforms that benefits not just the treasury financially longterm but also strengthens the financial safety net for disabled ppl is possible (and I truly believe that) but it’s going to take time, patience and open mindedness on the govs part (and politicians not seeing threatening disabled ppl lives as a reasonable cost for using welfare cuts as a ATM - as the ‘easy’ solution to their problems)

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 375 Pioneering
  • Stellar
    Stellar Online Community Member Posts: 203 Empowering

    The law dosen't matter if those in charge won't respect it. Look at what Donald Trump is doing in the US.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 375 Pioneering

    I think everyone has been having awards extended for quite some time due to the back log . I wouldn’t worry as nothing new has changed yet and I would assume they have to score according to the form you’ve already filled in . Mines due early next year so I should get a form any time soon. Unless any reforms are passed super quick I would think my review will be the same as last time. I’m no expert but just my opinion . I’m sure there will be ppl on here with more knowledge than me .

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,732 Empowering

    Thank you. The more extreme the proposals the longer it will take for any changes to come about.