Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)

judie

Hi @Nightcity, knew you'd still be fighting like hell! 👍

Mysteriouskitten

Hi. Its from benefitsandwork.co.uk. if you read through it it looks like the government are trying to get everything sorted by May so they can rush the changes through without proper consultation

Mysteriouskitten

So am I and everyone else. This is shocking, but that's what it's looking like

Mysteriouskitten

I hope to god somebody's going to take legal action. What they're doing is so wrong

JasonRA

Starmer is putting the changes to a vote which means it will become the law of the land, I guess the Lords could amend the changes but I'm not sure.

waylander9602

Hi Guys! As this is my first post since joining i hate for it to be negative, but I really don't think petitions and emails to your local Mp are going to work. Kier and Co have absolutely no morals whatsoever and will do everything they can to push it through. Charities and the like need to be alot more vocal via social media instead of sitting meakly in the corner telling us to sign petitions. Maybe behind closed doors they are doing more? But all I see on this forum and elsewhere is people( I include myself)with different disabilities suffering mental and physical anguish not knowing what the hell is going on and wondering If they are going to forced into further poverty. It's heartbreaking 💔 This gov is truly evil.

JasonRA

Thing is this "4 point rule" surely would require a consultation? We know their Green Paper will get challenged.

Mysteriouskitten

This gets worse by the day. What an evil diabolical government this is

Wibbles

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1011107#Comment_1011107

I emailed two of these MPs - linked to Parkinsons and Osteoporosis and got back "sorry can't help - your not in my area" so don't bother !!

Mysteriouskitten

This is whats wriiten on Benefits & Work, I dont know where they got it from but there must be something in it for them to post it.

There are growing reports that Labour aim to introduce a bill in May and, if it certified as a money bill, the Lords will not be able to amend or delay it for more than a month, meaning the PIP and UC cuts could be  on the statute book by the end of July, ready to be implemented next year.

gamer1

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1011018#Comment_1011018

They will do anything they can get away with. We are worse than rubbish to them. People need to get out and protest and cause a problem. It is the only way they might listen.

Hopeless

I remember this thing about a ‘money bill’ coming to light when they took away the extra money for LCW. The Lords stopped it initially but then the government said the Lords couldn’t do that as it was a money thing and the change went through

Mysteriouskitten

Him and his lawyer mates will have covered every loophole to get this through.

Stellar

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1011228#Comment_1011228

100%. Petitions, consultations and letters are useless. {Comment removed - uncivil language}

Charities being spineless and relying on backroom lobbying (that hasn't worked for many years now) is one reason the British left is in the state that it is.

Stellar

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1011262#Comment_1011262

did you email their MP accounts or their APPG accounts? if its the former, that's why they fobbed you off.

if you feel comfortable naming the two MPs you contacted, that'd benefit everyone.

Mysteriouskitten

I've just heard from my MP. She is opposed to the cuts and wants to meet me and others in our position, so although there's a list of only 27 MPs who have stated they will vote against the cuts, I reckon there's many more biding their time.

noonebelieves

Another Lie? 🤔

“DWP ordered to correct 'entirely misleading' claim about universal credit claimants looking for work”(Courtesy: Big Issue, 01 Apr 2025)

Mysteriouskitten

I think they are waiting for the green paper consultation to finish, then hopefully they will come out opposing the government.

apples

If they can pass PIP as a money bill, what about the lcw/ra can they abolish this as easy?

Wibbles

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1011283#Comment_1011283

hayesj@parliament.uk and sonia.kumar.mp@parliament.uk

I do not live in either constituency - so they will not deal with me

Those email addresses are all that they have !