WCA - GP gaslighted me on UC113 form!

Enduring_Rogue

I am awaiting outcome of my UC50 WCA and noticed on my NHS app a copy of UC113 form sent to WCA. This was completed by the main GP who owns the practice, I haven't seen him since 2023. He has basically gaslit my mental health conditions saying I was ok the last time I saw him and that his colleague has been dealing with me. Why did he even fill out the form?!!!

The GP who I have been seeing since October 2024 is great, but she wasn't given the chance to complete the form.

My question is whether this will affect my WCA, or will I get the chance to refute what he said? I can show the notes from the actual GP that has seen me (on my NHS app) she has been really great.

noonebelieves

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/132450/wca-gp-gaslighted-me-on-uc113-form

Hi @Enduring_Rogue ,

I’m really sorry to hear that this has happened. I had a similar experience two years ago when my GP sent totally irrelevant medical information—things like BMI and blood pressure issues that had nothing to do with my condition. It was from a GP I had never even seen before.

However, because I submitted a lot of corroborating medical evidence, I was still awarded LCWRA. My friend is a practicing GP in Milton Keynes, and he said that GPs hate filling out benefits forms because they don’t understand them at all. He mentioned that he calls claimants directly to fill out a few sections. I really wish everyone did that, but sadly, they don’t.

I know it’s incredibly frustrating, but hopefully, this won’t impact your outcome as long as you’ve submitted a detailed, medically backed-up WCA application, clearly explaining how your conditions meet the relevant descriptors.

Wishing you the best with your claim!

Enduring_Rogue

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1011836#Comment_1011836

Thanks @noonebelieves I have been resisting the urge to overreact to this, saw it last week, and discussed with my counsellor today. I sent in a letter from Sheffield Talking Therapies that lists my conditions, but he even said on the form that they just fob people off to CMHS, then said CMHS are overstretched. He made it sound like I don't deserve any help! Deeply upsetting to me as asking for help has been really difficult for me. I hope I get to challenge this during an actual assessment 🤞

noonebelieves

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1011837#Comment_1011837

Thanks, @Enduring_Rogue,
I truly wish you the very best. As long as you’ve submitted the relevant medical information from the “great GP” you’ve been seeing since Oct 24, along with any details from talking therapy and any other relevant medical information , I assume everything should be okay.🤞🤞

You definitely have the right to raise a complaint with your GP surgery’s practice manager regarding how your UC113 was handled, so that it doesn’t happen to you or anyone else in the future!

Best Wishes 🤝

Passerby

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1011837#Comment_1011837

"I hope I get to challenge this during an actual assessment 🤞"

If this means you haven't been called for the assessment yet, try to get a report/letter from the same GP and see what they write down for you. If you're not happy with what they write, then, at least you would guess what he has already sent to them and you would prepare yourself to challenge his claims.

Enduring_Rogue

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1011865#Comment_1011865

I saw exactly what he wrote on the form as it was scanned onto my records and visible in my NHS app, so I am prepared to be able to challenge it.

I was just trying to find out if WCA give any credence to a GP that hasn't actually seen me in over 18 months and who used the form to complain about how stretched the local mental health services are.

Passerby

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1011887#Comment_1011887

Yes they do give credence, as nothing shows them that the GP in question hasn't seen you for the past 18 months. In addition, at the assessment, trying to challenge what "your" doctor has written is a complete exercise in futility, as the assessor will believe the doctor more than you.

To counter what this GP has written, I would suggest that you get a report/letter from your current GP and take it with you to the assessment, or send it to the assessment centre, if possible.

Enduring_Rogue

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1012139#Comment_1012139

Thanks for the advice @Passerby I will call the surgery and ask.