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I think Sunak would of unturned long before this had he stayed
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Disgusting that they think this is okay
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I could be wrong but it may be that right now nothing has changed in parliament but if if does we may have rights to block certain parts of any new legislation. Right now Starmer and reeves said no WFA u turn , days later a u U-turn . They said they can’t afford to scrap the two child limit but now talk of a u turn. Fingers crossed he u turns again for us 🤞🙏
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I believe that this will pass but some aspects will get watered down, that's my hypothesis.
Don't give up hope, I'm really tired, my neck issues are getting worse, I'm miserable but I'm not letting these narcissistic abusers to grind me down to the dust.
Our lives were never meant to be easy, it's a fight every day and that we can overcome our obstacles we face, we can overcome these nasty pieces of work.
I'll take a break until sometime next week to stop myself spamming, take care and look after yourselves.
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Fingers crossed we get some good news 🤞
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I got an email back from DPAC today about my concerns over the legality about giving the WFA back to pensioners and abloishing the 2 child benefit cap, whilst cutting support for disabled and vulnerable groups. This is the reply;
we've already met with PLP and are due to meet a barrister working with Leigh Day next week so if any legal challenges are possible we'll be taking action. Sadly it seems to not be straightforward.Linda
I also researched what she meant by 'not straightforward' as it might mean a grey area legally.
Key Points from the DPAC Response
"We've already met with PLP and are due to meet a barrister working with Leigh Day next week..."
- PLP = Public Law Project (a leading organisation specialising in legal challenges to government decisions).
- Leigh Day = A major law firm that has successfully challenged DWP policies in the past (e.g. PIP mobility changes, UC discrimination cases).
- They are clearly already investigating legal action and taking it seriously.
"...if any legal challenges are possible we'll be taking action."
- DPAC is committed to pursuing a challenge if the legal grounds are there.
- This also suggests they're being strategic and careful — which is wise, because launching a judicial review is complex, expensive, and must meet specific legal criteria.
"Sadly it seems to not be straightforward."
- This acknowledges what’s often the case: not all unfair policies are automatically illegal, and some may be legally grey areas.
- It may reflect the early stage of legal assessment, or difficulties in proving discrimination under current law.
✅ What This Means for You
- Your concerns are valid and shared by leading campaigners and legal experts.
- DPAC is already engaged with top legal minds, so you're aligned with active, informed resistance.
- The issue is complex, but not being ignored — there’s a path forward, even if it's difficult.
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Thank you Charlie. I really hope the MPs supporting us so far continue to put pressure on starmer and do not cave in to his emotional blackmail. I did read he’s being implored to think about taxing gambling sites to fund it , that could mean they won’t need to go ahead with the disability cuts to pay .
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I’ve read that starmers being advised to tax gambling sites after he’s said to have asked for ways to fund scrapping the two child limit, apparently. If this is the case it means he’s u turning and may u turn again if the MPs continue to rebel against disabled cuts. I also read an article which seemed to suggest it’s Starmer who’s getting more forceful with the things he wants . In other words he’s throwing reeves under the bus to try and save himself.
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I also emailed Jeremy Corbyn & Diane Abbot even though theyr'e not my local MP's about the issue of possible discrimination to disabled and other vulnerable groups by uturns to WFA and the 2 child benefit cap. Hopefully they may inform other mp's about our concerns or even kick up a fuss for us, like yourself and Catherine keep emphasising, it's still important to not give up hope and carry on emailing your own local mp (even if they don't reply) and other mp's who aren't your mp, as they still receive your emails, and possibly will read them and take notice or our concerns.
Keep well 😊
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Emotional rollercoaster there's to many people behind us for them to just ignore it all so fingers crossed we get some good news
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Jeremy is my mp . I will also email him again regarding this as I can’t help feeling we are being sacrificed now and MPs in our side blackmailed
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I said this from the beginning....they are giving back some of the wfa and will cut the 2 child benefit cap so they can get the welfare cuts through , it was so obvious from the very start .... The Tories will not go against these cuts either , the cuts will pass no doubt about it .... What we should be more hopeful about is if they make amendments to them , that is our real hope , but as for them not passing through parliament we have no chance
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Yes good idea, we all need to carry on emailing mp's each day, I know it's difficult and disheartening not getting replies, but they DO know from the extent and amount they receive our utter displeasure at these mind games. I think from my email I received from DPAC they are being cautious about revealing what their plans might be for a legal challenge to anything, including the most recent nonsense on WFA and 2 child benefit cap(all designed to wear us down).
Even with these consessions, mp's are still unhappy about these welfare cuts and the anger they are receiving via emails, and on the doorstep. These 'reforms' may well go through to the white paper, but I strongly beleive they will have to be watered down quite a bit to appease unhappy mp's. Also this way Starmer can save face and not have to do a full u-turn on his sacred welfare cuts, whilst at the same time say he was listening to our concerns. They don't call him Mr. Flip Flop for ne reason, although I could think of a few more choice words for him!!
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Kendall recently said she’s looking into changing the pip criteria/ assessments. I’m sure it was around the time of the WFA u turn. I said then and still think now perhaps she plans to water down the 4 point descriptor so it’s closer to a 2 point answer. That way it means it’s watered down but without a climb down. Either that or it could go the other way and they could make getting a 4 point descriptor harder by making the answer like an 8 point descriptor, though that would be risky with all the back lash they’re getting.
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Do you reckon it will be a complete overhaul in questions ? To make the questions line up with LCRWA a bit more so people don’t miss out as much ?
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Hi Johnny ,
I don’t know I just think they can go either way if they change the criteria. They can make it harder so even less people get it or if they want to soften the blow without looking weak they could make the 4 point questions easier. All we can do is email them as much as possible. I just emailed starmer again and Farage. I’m just hoping the rebels continue to support us and pressure him to u turn 🙏🤞
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I think he may stab reeves in the back . He waited till she was out of the country to say he’s looking at the WFA. I just wrote to starmer again and reminded him he’ll be needing our votes next election and it’s not fair to u turn for the pensioners ( which I agree with) and the two child limit but leave us disabled people to be destitute. I also emailed Farage because as you say if Farage said tmrw he supported us Starmer would follow suit.
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Apologies if this has already been posted. This means Labour could go either way with the cuts.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/25/the-charts-that-show-just-how-worried-labour-should-be-about-the-polls
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