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  • Quirkz
    Quirkz Community Member Posts: 19 Connected

    I submitted my response to the consultation today, (around eight pages long). Mum and I spent a long time writing out our answers. I hope the DWP does read our responses.

  • AppleJacks
    AppleJacks Posts: 89 Empowering

    I hear the talk on here about wfa back down. But in my opinion he and reeves won't back down that much. I'm on the new pension, but the wife's on the old one and that's all we get, I think he'll refuse to give anyone on the new pension anything as he didn't say and neither did Brown that they'll pay it to everyone. But he'll give in enough so they both can steal some benefits and wfa. Maybe they need to look at their own claims for income and see how much they're stealing from the public purse.

  • AppleJacks
    AppleJacks Posts: 89 Empowering
  • AppleJacks
    AppleJacks Posts: 89 Empowering

    Is there something wrong with site, it seems to be posting twice sometimes?.

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    Totally agree I bet it's a fair amount they get from the public purse + the big pay packet

  • Amaya_Ringo
    Amaya_Ringo Community Member Posts: 408 Championing

    The site didn't register some edits to a post I made the other day, either, but maybe it's just because the thread is so long.

    I agree with reversing the WFA cut (at least, if they can't ensure everyone who needs it gets it without everyone getting it, everyone should get it to ensure nobody misses out) and the 2 child benefit cap. But it makes me absolutely furious that they are only doing this now to try and stop people sticking up for us, in order to make disabled people suffer.

    In the last two months, now my work position is permanent, I am now a tax payer. A disabled tax payer. And I would much rather my tax was going to support disabled people than going on Government expenses.

    What doesn't help is the long, drawn out, drama of it all. The I paper had a whole article about this and DID bother to insert that PIP is not to do with work, which is more than the government seem able to do. Not that I think that people on ESA/UC should be thrown to the wolves, I just feel like these are two SEPARATE issues which should be looked at individually.

    Do things need changing in PIP? Yes, but not in the way the government think. More people being accurately awarded without needing appeal, better criteria which incorporate more range of disabilities/disability needs (ie, fatigue is not mentioned on current PIP, nor is executive function, nor is the ability to leave your house on any given day).

    The PIP criteria discussion is mentioned in the green paper as something they intend to look at after the green paper proposals are passed. But I am a cynic. I would expect the changes to make getting 4 points harder, since they're fixed on saving money.

    So much for the burden being on the broadest shoulders.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I agree regarding pip criteria, I gave ME and fibromyalgia and there’s nothing in the questions regarding fatigue which is debilitating as there’s no treatment or tablet that gives you energy.
    I think the pip criteria change could go either way , they’ll either make the 4 point questions easier so it’s not so brutal and us a partial u turn without actually be seen to be u turning or they’ll make the 4 point descriptors what are now the 8 points meaning hardly anyone will qualify. It’s hard to say which way it’ll go as it depends on what starmers thinking at the time . It wouldn’t look good to u turn for other groups and leave us to suffer though and I really hope labour MPs keep up the support for us and aren’t swayed by this attempt at what I think is bribery . We really need some good news as this is cruel what he’s doing.

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  • Martinp
    Martinp Community Member Posts: 248 Empowering

    apparently the government are going to give us more time to prepare for homelessness and destitution according to The Times front page

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering
  • bton1968
    bton1968 Community Member Posts: 155 Empowering

    i'm not subscribed to the times so i can't read the article hence the screenshot.

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  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering
  • Martinp
    Martinp Community Member Posts: 248 Empowering

    I was watching the news this morning and paper reviews and it said as a concession to the bank bench rebellion they are going to put it back apparently. They want to give us more time to prepare for the changes.

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    Thanks Martinp I hope this is true might walk to shop just to read that front page 🤣

  • apples
    apples Community Member Posts: 558 Empowering

    So they know it might cause homelessness and all they will do is give us more time! More time for what get some cardboard boxes together, makes me angry

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    might be positive if delayed as someone has said in previous post

  • bton1968
    bton1968 Community Member Posts: 155 Empowering

    rather than giving us more time what they need to do is have a complete reset and a cabinet change with Starming getting shut of his right hand man and advisor McSweeney (who apparently dictates policy) ….

    u turn on the winter fuel allowance ✅

    scrapping the 2 child benefit cap ✅

    u turn on the benefits cap ✅

    If Labour did the above they'd adhere themselves to the diehard Labour loyalist which they're losing at a great rate of knots, couple that with other policies farmers, fishing, immigration ect which need rethinking ….

    There's a lot of talk of taxing the wealthy even more than they do already but that is not the way to go as they are the backbone of industry and will just leave this country (which they are at the rate of a millionaire an hour) ….

    everyone should be responsible in getting this country out of the hole it finds it's self in so in my eyes the simple solution is to increase VAT by a couple of % …..

    stop the boats (use our navy) , stop the hotel accommodation for them (£145 per person per day - tents will do ), stop gifting money to France who do sod all but wave them off !

    and while we're at it stop the aid to the Ukraine (£18 billion and counting)

    this country is in a mess and charity needs to start at home !

  • Fuzzy200
    Fuzzy200 Community Member Posts: 53 Empowering

    This is from the front page on the BBC.

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    says 170 rebels now

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