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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    Even with all medical evidence I’ve been given zero points . And it’s not just assessors either. The tribunal not only awarded no points but tried to remove points if been given by a MR. The worst person on the panel was the disabled person. I ended up going to the upper tribunal as the dwp admitted they erred in law .

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    Thanks for that, I was worried it might be to force you into work (mandatory) surely there are those of us who just can't work because of mental or physical illness, can we just say thanks, but not interested, too unwell and they say no worries we'll contact you again in a few months?

    I know you don't know all the answers, you seem a bit more clued up than me about this green paper thing!!😊

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  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    There is a article on GB news about Liz Kendall facing MPs behind closed doors I've tried to upload link on here but don't know if being checked as ain't come on

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    They were playing up to the dwp rep who was also there .

  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Community Member Posts: 506 Empowering

    Yes I agree that it depends on how you come across which could be different each time and that depends on the vibes you get from the person doing the assessment and not putting over what you need to jepordising your claim. Last time I froze and panicked and went to appeal

    This is why paper assessment would eradicate this you'd be genuine to both people. Like a driving test as opposed to being judged over 30 mins get a better impression over a longer period of time like what would happen via GP.

    I sent a letter from my GP and they contacted her but all the info she gave could be insignificant depending on assessors impression of me who doesn't know me.

    I guess you keep getting pip until a decision is made as it takes a while I've heard too.

    Regards

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    https://www.gbnews.com/politics/liz-kendall-address-labour-mps-keir-starmer-revolt-dwp-benefits-crackdown

  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Community Member Posts: 506 Empowering
    edited June 2025

    @bton1968 makes me anxious about my tomorrow reassessment, me thinking that the new harder to score points comes in next year, I have 10 points in daily living for unfamiliar places and two's for other things.

    @secretsquirrel1 my GP says she will eat her hat if what with all evidence she has given via a letter she gave me to send and what she said when they contacted her. I've got notes, stuff about my last claim where I scored etc. things I've read making me really worried about tomorrow morning 😔 even though I was told it is better to have reassessment now than after Nov next year.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,102 Pioneering

    Tnx!

    Timms seemed not to have heard the suggestion of where to get money without taking it from the disabled. He doesn't care, he just voiced what was written earlier. He seems to be nobody, has no influence, but he is well paid for the role and he is quite happy with it.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,102 Pioneering

    The authorities of all countries consider this to be "their country", and the people living on the territory of the country are just a resource for the authorities. It doesn't matter - monarchy, democracy or communism.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I would say read your form and check your answers for any 4 point descriptor. Don’t let the assessor steer you towards 2 point answers. My last assessor did that to me . I definitely should have got at least one 4 point possibly two. She just asked questions which my reply would be 2, points . I would also be prepared to record myself next time as they pulled a trick on me last minute. Good luck for tmrw I definitely think it’s better to get it over with before next year. Mines up next February and I haven’t received my form yet. Apparently the new form is 89 pages long now 😩

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    Hi all,

    Disability talk with Steve’s new video says according to the OBR 1 in 10 will lose pip. This was said by Timms. Not sure how they come to that number but he mentioned behaviour and conditions worsening. wonder if they’re taking into account people fighting to get a 4 now . As for conditions worsening why the constant assessments if the know most people get worse not better

  • luvpink
    luvpink Community Member Posts: 5,184 Championing

    @Tumilty

    Good luck with your assessment.

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Community Member Posts: 229 Empowering

    So what would happen to people who receive cbesa / lcwra but no pip ? .... Will we just carry on with the standard WCA and just have to concentrate on passing that as normal until it's abolishment in 2028 / 2029 .... Then when that happens the new pip criteria takes over from the WCA and we will all be under the 4 point rule ?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    What I don’t understand is right now there people on lcwra who don’t claim pip due to the assessment. If the new combined assessment comes in does that mean people who didn’t apply for pip will automatically be eligible once they pass the assessment ?

  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Community Member Posts: 506 Empowering

    I got 10 points last time for not being able to go to unfamiliar places & nothing has changed. I'm dreading it, not sure if i should just do short answers as i'm terrible on the phone or just keep saying that nothing has changed

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Community Member Posts: 229 Empowering

    Im not sure 🤔 ..... I was of the impression that people in my position , nothing will really change for us until 2028 / 2029 when the WCA is abolished , then when the new pip criteria takes over from the WCA our next assessment will be the pip one , basically we have to pass that just to keep what we are getting now on lcwra....... Albeit under a different name as ESA support group and lcwra health element top up will be called simply " health element " under the new 4 point criteria ....

    It's strange because technically I've never been assessed for lcwra

    I've Always been assessed with a ESA50 form , I vounterally moved over to UC from CB ESA support group , so i was automatically put in to lcwra because of my support group status ....

    This will be the case for a lot of people that are being migrated over ....

    So next time I'm reassessed it will be with a UC50 form instead of a ESA50 form , although I've been assured many times that they are incredibly similar....and it covers both my cbesa and lcwra

    So yeah I'm just going to concentrate on passing that when it comes and then deal with the new pip criteria when it takes over .... That's how I'm looking at it ....

    Its a good point you make but I honestly don't know the answer , like most other things at the moment 😂☺️

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