Green Paper Related Discussions
Comments
-
Both Trump and our prime monster are dictators to the core, sadly for them, they're in democratic countries which restrict their powers.
It has been found out that the reason why Trump likes Putin and Kim Jong Un is because of their supreme powers based upon dictatorship, which he envies.
0 -
Ministers look at softening UK welfare cuts to avert rebellion by Labour MPsGovernment is seeking to save £5bn a year by reforming disability benefits known as ‘personal independence payments’Labour MPs involved in organising rebels ahead of a crunch vote on the welfare reforms say more than 160 disagree with the proposals
Ministers are considering a softening of their contentious UK welfare reforms that could allow up to 200,000 people to keep their disability benefits, as the government seeks to stave off a backbench rebellion.
In March, Sir Keir Starmer unveiled plans to reform the welfare system to save the government about £5bn a year by scaling back disability benefits known as “personal independence payments”.
One of the changes being looked at was a tweak to the proposed Pip assessment rules so that individuals who do not receive at least four points in any category, but do receive a high overall score, would still be eligible, according to two people briefed on the discussions.
The change being considered could affect about 13 per cent of the 1.5mn people at risk of having their disability benefits cut.
The people stressed that the government might not opt to pursue this change, and a number of other options were being looked at, as Starmer prepares for what is likely to be the biggest rebellion of his premiership next month.
Labour MPs involved in organising rebels ahead of a crunch vote on the welfare reforms say more than 160 disagree with the proposals, which could see the benefit completely taken away from some 800,000 people, many of whom need help washing themselves or using the toilet.
Starmer is mindful of a need to quell the rebellion and maintain party unity even as he tacks to the right on issues such as immigration and trans rights in his efforts to fend off Nigel Farage’s populist Reform UK party.
The prime minister has already said he was planning to walk back his deeply unpopular decision to strip winter fuel payments from about 10mn pensioners, and has signalled to allies that he was keen to scrap the two-child benefit cap, which is a significant contributor to child poverty.
Under the current system, Pip recipients are given a score of up to 12 in 10 different categories. They need to score a total of at least eight points across all of the categories to receive the “standard rate” of Pip and at least 12 points for the “enhanced rate”.
But under the rules announced earlier this year, due to come into effect in November 2026, claimants will need to score at least four points in at least one category to receive any rate of Pip.
The change being discussed by ministers would allow individuals that score less than four in all categories of daily living activities to still qualify for Pip if they get a high overall score.
This higher overall score could be set at 12, in line with the current score needed to get the enhanced rate, the people said.
Thirteen per cent of people that currently score 12 or above overall — and are therefore eligible for the enhanced rate of Pip — were awarded less than four points for all assessment categories, according to data provided by the government under Freedom of Information laws. This equates to about 210,000 people,
The Office for Budget Responsibility said that taking into account the raw number of recipients today, Starmer’s proposed welfare reforms would mean that about 1.5mn people could lose out on the benefit. But it added that it expected behavioural change by applicants and assessors to significantly reduce the number of people affected.RecommendedUK welfare reformUK considers taxing pensioners to claw back winter fuel payment
The watchdog therefore estimated that around 800,000 people will lose out on the disability benefit, equating to about 16 per cent of recipients.
People close to the government stress that the changes would not come into effect until November of next year, and it would take three years to reassess everyone already on the caseload.A government spokesperson said: “The majority of people who are currently getting Pip will continue to receive it. We will never compromise on protecting people who need our support, and our reforms will mean the social security system will always be there for those who will never be able to work, and that their income is protected.”
4 -
"I hope she will be gone by then, preferably before that and take her welfare cuts with her."
1 -
"People close to the government stress that the changes would not come into effect until November of next year, and it would take three years to reassess everyone already on the caseload."
What matters is what's made law and put in place and not really when they come into effect or whether it takes 3 or even 5 years to reassess everyone already on the caseload.
3 -
Starmer did give the impression of being a much better person than he is. It's was actually an act to lull you into a false sense of security and then attack you, seemly out of nowhere.
In the end though all he seems to be is right wing, morally bankrupt Morgan McSweeny's puppet. I'd love to know who elected him!
Sadly, I've read that Starmer will be difficult to get rid of and that Labour are not the type, like the Tories were to show their leaders the door,if they can possibly help it.
Apart from Jeremy Corbyn that is. 😡
Considering what happened to him, we know, of course than getting a principled, left wing MP like Richard Burgon in as PM is never going to happen.
It's a nice thought though! 😊
0 -
I do like Prime Monster, @Passerbyit's spot on.👌 Can I add my suggestion Karma for Starmer to the list? 🤔
1 -
If I’m reading this right that means those on enhanced without a 4 point ( 13% I think ) would keep their award but those on standard without a 4 (87%I think) would lose. Effectively wiping out standard care . Thank you for posting, at least this means they’re looking at changes .
0 -
Me and my wife would be in the 13% we get higher rate both but no 4 point
1 -
Me too Johnny but only just . The whole thing is wrong . Until my last assessment I was on standard yet just as bad as I am now .
1 -
This new idea of the 4 point rule being amended to appease mp's is a complete cop out. Again Starmer is trying to get his own way because they want him to scrap these pip reforms in full, something he's not willing to do. No doubt those who are already on enhanced daily living will think, well I'm okay then, completely selfish outlook, to say I won't be affected, well good for you. Soooo angry with some comments on here……..again.
3 -
I’m on enhanced and I certainly don’t think that Charlie . What he’s planning is basically scrapping the standard rate. Until my last assessment I was on standard yet I was just as bad as I am now . The fact that he’s thinking of changes is a good sign I think 🤔. It must mean they’re worried the vote will go against them
2 -
Oh that's great has there be alot of people telling there stories I can't get x
1 -
And no ones taking of wca that strips us as disabled ??
1 -
I have EUPD a severe mental health condition.
I am in receipt of LCWRA and standard rate PIP.
I stand to loose all my support even if these 'tweaks' are bought in.
The worry and uncertainty over these past weeks have been unbearable.
2 -
0
-
The retirement age in North Korea for women is 60 years, for men 65 years, as far as I remember.
0 -
The thing is no one talking of wca what are uc rules I heard have to sign commitments ? Plus we need to talk about erosion of uc throw it all in because they will make out they give and take in other ways we lose alot from esa not just money but our rights that's why rushing us onto uc I read an article where Ian duncan Smith attended a lobbying at Parliament was he the one who implemented UC ????? Probley spying
0 -
Ps and what about pathway to work so many things that have to be included
0 -
Every article we see call them out on it send article and your own personal take on it everyday thier will be more of these lies call them out thier trying to convince mps public
And this article in it self admits they force people into any workload send clear message to mps
0 -
Another lie millions goes unclaimed thier is a journalist been doing articles conversation on politics for 50 years Alex something I think he said he has never called any government lies who twist and manipulate the public so as post before we got to keep highlighting the lies
0
Categories
- All Categories
- 15K Start here and say hello!
- 7.1K Coffee lounge
- 83 Games den
- 1.7K People power
- 109 Announcements and information
- 23.7K Talk about life
- 5.6K Everyday life
- 329 Current affairs
- 2.4K Families and carers
- 859 Education and skills
- 1.9K Work
- 508 Money and bills
- 3.5K Housing and independent living
- 1K Transport and travel
- 872 Relationships
- 254 Sex and intimacy
- 1.5K Mental health and wellbeing
- 2.4K Talk about your impairment
- 859 Rare, invisible, and undiagnosed conditions
- 916 Neurological impairments and pain
- 2.1K Cerebral Palsy Network
- 1.2K Autism and neurodiversity
- 38.6K Talk about your benefits
- 5.9K Employment and Support Allowance (ESA)
- 19.3K PIP, DLA, ADP and AA
- 7.9K Universal Credit (UC)
- 5.5K Benefits and income