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Evil Edna for kendell she still says going ahead with cuts that the welfare state will collapse what about 7.5 billion unclaimed am I right in thinking that
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I dont understand it i personally think just scrap it im also worried about wca being scrapped as on uc you sign a work commitment i think labour put it all out thier to see what they can get away with so even the bare minimum seems like a u turn kendell stating still going ahead even though all this been proved a scam a setup when you find articles and don't agree send them to your mps calling them out because will be so many articles lying trying to get people on thier side ie this morning job centres will no longer force people into jobs oh so you admit that happens no I emailed my mp stating facts 😉
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I' got pip till 2030 with 4 point in one and there is noway I feel safe I will fight up until they vote on it any article I find as lies I send to my mp calling out the lies I've sent so many emails this is a fight for us all for us all ! We need to show labour back off we need to fight for dignity and respect for to many years we have been abused I don't think people mean it they just expressing thier relief and unfortunately human nature can be like that at times we have how many weeks a month we need to keep pushing through email email email
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The guardian
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That’s the scary part . It’s always been a worry losing pip but at least we’d have esa/ lcwra as a back up. This way we go from being disabled to being non disabled over 4 point descriptor. Basically taking away our right and identity as disabled people. That’s surely discrimination
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I have the same keep emailing your mp stating how this will effect you
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I know last time I was assessed I got standard rate but like others sometimes say, they knew they should have got enhanced but accecpted standard because of fear of losing everything. I believe I could have got enhanced due to 2 descriptors, they scored me 2 points on each but I should have got minimum 4. I think next time I'll definately appeal to get the enhanced, ilke you say it's good he's looking at changes but again he's being manipulative and playing us off against each other. I despise the man and all he stands for(very little), he shouldn't just make 'tweaks' to these pip refprms, they need scrapping entirely, they are inhumane, cruel, and dangerous.
I honestly didn't mean to rant at folk on here, Starmer just makes me soooo angry, didn't help seeing his smug face this morning on tv again when I turned it on, that set me off too, I usually try avoid news on tv as well!! Lets hope this 4 point thing gets scrapped completely and mp's don't accept his dodgy consessions, that man is so sly, slimy, and Lucifer has more comassion than that two faced flip flopper.
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True. The WCA was cruel and feared greatly but it needed a shot of medical common sense rather than abolition. It's abolition and the impact of that is a forgotten "reform".
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I do think they need to focus on people who are on jsa and able to work
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I think it's Japan could be China but they have beautiful retirement homes beautiful community's really taken care of and thier very healthy yoga everything on hand
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Yes I agree, I dont think people mean it, it just comes out wrong in written form, a bit like a text message!! This is what starmer wants though, people against each other all the time, e.g look what youv'e got, making us out to be lazy and workshy!! I despise the man, he's nothing but a used car salesman, and a useless one at that, trying to push reforms which are dangerous, cruel, and nobody whose any moral issues wants.
He's now trying to get rid of the standard rate in my opinion which would still affect loads of people who really need it, and are fully entitled to it. That's what I meant by him playing people off one another, those who get enhanced and those on standard rate, he's a monster, evil, and one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse.
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Charlie I never liked him . There’s something very creepy about him . I whole thing needs scrapping but as you say we will all be going tribunal for that 4 points now. I think there’s a lot of us that should be awarded a 4 points but don’t appeal as we get an award anyway. This will overload the system
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What I don’t understand is how it will save money . I know people on lcwra but not pip due to fear of the assessment. Now if they’ll have to have the new pip assessment in order to get lcwra and they pass won’t this mean they’ll also get pip ? So they’ll be on more money than they get currently
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Yes been blinded with pip pip same when election came was bombarded with get Labour in just focus on that aspect lwcra kept us safe
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I didn't even check my points until this all came out not ranting expressing yourself
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Exactly Catherine but you notice they haven’t been mentioned apart from a payment rise . Not saying they don’t deserve the increase but what about they concentrate on finding them these great career opportunities first
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Which proves its all cost saving because they mentioned we get too much they want us all on jsa save more than 5 billion hope mps not blinded with what proposals they come up with it's a mistake just focusing on pip should be pip and heath component on uc
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And saying have to be 22 for UC me personally from age 12 onwards my mental health was shocking no family to support me was on my own this leaves young people very vunerable to all manor of things makes me so angry makes me look back and hurts my heart as alot of young people shy scared uninformed unsupported
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Hi and thankyou chiarieds. I had a bad day yesterday, some comments came across as very anti State Pensioners claiming PIP, it did ruffle my feathers, a lot. I had lots more to say on the subject but then felt as I was so angry, better to just leave it and maybe take a break. I am calmer today, so with a deep breath here I am and moving on from that particular discussion.
Thank you so much for the advice and the links 😊Poppy helped me with advice re claiming pension credit, both levels plus I have tried the different calculators. I am a member of age concern and receive their newsletters and have spoken to them. The problem is I have a complicated situation. At the moment I really cannot and do not complain, as my SP along with PIP means I can manage just about, loosing PIP though would plunge me into real dire straights, it helps with so many extra disability related things I need to keep me independent.
Thank you again chiarieds 😊
and thank you to all those that understand we are all in this together no matter what age we are ☺️
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