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What i would like to know that if it goes through can they change there mind later on after the impact statements ?
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All valid points .... π
My thinking to those is
1. I've only ever had face to face and always passed them , and the chances of me having a face to face are very slim this time around as I haven't been outside once in nearly 6 years
2. I see your point to this but with the back logs who knows when our next reassessment will be under the wca , the back logs are massive .... I myself haven't had one since 2019 in November and was supposed to get one in November 2021 , so this November will be six years since I've had one and 4 overdue .... Plus what they say they are going to do and what they can actually do is two different things , they will also have there hands full with the new pip criteria
3. Like you say who knows , but to be fair as hard as it is not to , that is a fear that has no basis of anything you've heard , and they cannot just leave people completey destitute , I know it's hard to believe at the moment but try not to let your fears cloud what's actually isn't even been said ( hard I know ) π
4. It would be stressful , unfortunately either way , but I would say alot can change between now and when the wca gets scrapped , I think pip is getting the coverage because it's the next change that will happen , but I think when it's time too do it they will have alot of worried people on Thier hands and amendments will be needed , I think because there will be no change for people like us till 2028 that is the reason why more has not being made of it , pip has dominated headlines because that is where the biggest change is coming next , nearer the time of the WCA being scrapped I'm sure we will hear alot more about it
5 . This is that doom creeping on to your head that we all get and unfortunately find it hard to deal with , that is the very worst case scenario , which I doubt will happen .... Remember they can't just literally leave people like that
Just before I wrote my last post I was having panic attacks , I couldn't breathe and the worst was flying around my head , once I calmed down and tried to think a little more logically it's easier to think .... There will definitely be amendments to all of these things whether it be pip , wca , esa .... They can't just leave us to rot π
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Thank you pal , I've just had a massive panic attack , it's funny sometimes I feel at my best just after I've got over one , it's like it takes it out of you so much you feel almost relaxed π
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I mean you would think so wouldn't you , but it's nearly all but certain there will be amendments , so I think they will amend them as they go ....
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They have lost my vote regardless and I hope a lot of other people as well.
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Im thinking maybe lowering the 4 point rule for existing pip claimants and also existing lcwra claimants , maybe some sort of transitional protection , I'm not sure , I'm so confident there will have to be tweaks and amendments to these reforms , there just not logically possible , I think most people seem that .... It beggars belief to me that labour would steal Tory ideas in the first place , but what's even more unbelievable is that they were Tory ideas that were in there very essence, half baked ideas that were designed to be election red meat , absolutely blurted out by the Tories with no real thought of how to implement them or what damage they would do to people would do to people , AND LABOUR BEING ABSOLUTELY USELESS HAVE ADOPTED THEM!! ..... without any risk assessment whatsoever ! It's so dangerous .....
That is why I'm all but sure they don't go through as they are .... I do worry that people in our position are getting hung out to dry in the fact that we are on lcwra / ESA ....
And all the attention seems to be on pip .... But when you think about those are the first big changes
The freeze for existing claimants recieving lcwra .... Or in my case ESA / lcwra , happening April 2026
The cut and freeze for New claimants also april 2026
Then the new pip criteria takes over for new and existing claimants of pip after November 2026
I suppose they will get that out of the way first and as it gets closer to 2028 we will know alot more about the scrapping of the WCA and what there plans are for it .... But that will be a big problem for them as well , just as much as the pip , so they will have to come up with something for that as well
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Starmer has finished off the Labour Party .
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Couldn't agree more @Passerby - nothing is certain, & Labour seem to be trying to dilute things & reassure other Labour MPs that look, we're going to give more (but not all) pensioners their Winter Fuel Allowance back, but we haven't decided how we're going to address this yet, it should be in Autumn (which may however be too late to help pensioners next winter), & we're going to give more children free school meals (yet little mention of the 2 child benefit cap).
It all seems to be trying to curry favour with many rebellious MPs who are against the benefit changes, meanwhile not a word is mentioned about these proposed changes to PIP & the abolishment of the WCA.
The current Green Paper also says, they are 'going to launch a process to review the PIP assessment.' This they say they will do with 'a range of experts, stakeholders and people with lived experience.' If they do this in the way we've been consulted so farβ¦β¦
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Morning any positive news today ???
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It shows their hatred of us . Any savings they claim are needed to bring the benefits bill down will go towards the two child limit so no savings at all . It will cost them no extra to leave disability alone .
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Oh please good news π€π€π€πππ
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I believe the same Catherine . I canβt see how anyone can be this incompetent.
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every thing he does stinks of him currying favour with the EU β¦ that's where his next job is !
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Absolutely and all the back benchers will be left behind jobless
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Very interesting post and yes, I agree completely that the LCWRA/ESA issue is being ignored for the most part. I'm one of those people who only has LCWRA and it feels like there will be nowhere for me to turn at all when the changes happen. I hope that won't be the case.
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