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  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    Labour have responded to badenock


    A Labour spokesperson said: "We're fixing the abysmal mess the Tories left behind, and MPs can either vote to keep a broken, failed welfare system that writes people off, or they can vote to start fixing it.

    "Next week's Bill is a test for the Leader of the Opposition as to whether her party has learned anything at all by being roundly rejected by Britain"

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Some of them said,apparently, they didn’t want to vote and walk the same corridor’s as reform and now Starmer could possibly form a kind of coalition with Tory’s

  • mac99
    mac99 Online Community Member Posts: 39 Contributor

    how would labour voters react?it could cause labour voters to abandon the party in they're droves if he made a deal with theb tories as it would prove labour and tories are the same.

  • Stellar
    Stellar Online Community Member Posts: 409 Pioneering

    HMG, to use your words "treating you as adults," while also taking away the support you need to thrive, (such as these benefit cuts, adult social care, inaccessible and overpriced public transport, destruction of the NHS, toothless equalities law) is an oxymoron.

    "My life my choice" cannot truly apply under these circumstances. And sadly, that's what supporters of assisted dying in a capitalist system like yourself refuse to accept.

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 414 Pioneering

    Starmer and the Labour Party will be finished if that happens.

  • Stellar
    Stellar Online Community Member Posts: 409 Pioneering

    By proposing these conditions, the Tories want Sir Kid Starver to kill even more disabled people than they already plan to with the current cuts.

    And the thing is, it's actually possible he'll cave.

  • Stellar
    Stellar Online Community Member Posts: 409 Pioneering

    Don't use ChatGPT. Not only does AI make mistakes, but it also further contributes to the climate crisis due to all the energy AI uses to generate responses to prompts.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I’ve just heard something online from instagram that starmers made this a money bill now . I’m not on instagram so can’t check. I think it’s someone called bristol crips

  • Stellar
    Stellar Online Community Member Posts: 409 Pioneering

    This is true. Even able bodied, sane neurotypicals are struggling to find work. Disabled people have no chance.

    A genuine push to bring disabled people into work requires ring-fencing well-paid jobs for disabled people, alongside both financial and legal incentives for employers to honour these roles. And also legal reprisals if they don't.

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 414 Pioneering

    He may well do that Stellar but the fallout for him will not be good. As someone on X said 'He can't take Badenoch up on the support though because he can't agree to refrain from tax rises in autumn budget. Kemi just bamboozled him to make her look strong to Tory voters & make Starmer look weak by asking for Tory help that is impossible to take up.'

  • rach_90
    rach_90 Online Community Member Posts: 38 Contributor
    edited June 2025

    124 Labour MPs set to rebel - just been reported on itv news. The number is rising

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Online Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering
  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 4,351 Championing

    Not unless many, many more Labour members support the ammendment along with the smaller parties.

  • rach_90
    rach_90 Online Community Member Posts: 38 Contributor
    edited June 2025

    I don’t know. The 127 number was reported on twitter. Not sure if it was an I official number. I could be wrong though. When I looked online on google when the number was reported to be 119 I could only find sources that said 108 🤷‍♀️

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I just heard someone on instagram said he’s pushing it through as a money bill now

  • waylander9602
    waylander9602 Online Community Member Posts: 73 Empowering

    At 6:59 itv news reported that an amendment will be heard nxt Tuesday? What does this mean please?

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 414 Pioneering

    Asked someone on X. Their reply was:-

    Don't think it's a money bill yet as Speaker decides this rather than the presenting party. They want it to be a money bill to get it passed as quickly as possible but it's contentious because UC Health cuts motivated by "perverse incentive" narrative not just to reduce spending

  • rach_90
    rach_90 Online Community Member Posts: 38 Contributor

    I looked at that and the comments - asking for the source or links saying it was going to be a money bill - they didn’t reply 🤔.

    There’s so much misinformation in the domain - especially the social media that it’s hard to know what to believe. I know it’s not good for our MH though 😫

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Online Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering
  • Danny123
    Danny123 Online Community Member Posts: 223 Empowering

    I always feared the Tories would vote in favour of these cuts and I always said they eventually would .... God I hope I'm wrong 🙏

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