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To save his own job the prime Minister will not side with badenoch. I would like a detailed debate about the proposal that involves everyone. This is what is stressing me out it just feels so so rushed. Why?
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I just emailed her saying that . How disgusting playing politics with people’s lives
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Even though the Tories aren't in power anymore they're still managing to torture us again. :(
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the last two are impossible as there aren’t the jobs anyway
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🤣 just about to say the same thing
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He will be brutal in the autumn budget to keep tories happy
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It will say a lot if Keir listens and agrees to the changes Tories have suggested, but would not listen to his own party.
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But this comes at a cost
''The prospect of the bill passing on Conservative votes would outrage Labour MPs.''
Would not end well with starmer.
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"She was born British, as Olukemi Olufunto Adegoke, in a Wimbledon hospital in January 1980, before her parents took her home to Nigeria. Badenoch was among the last to benefit from the birthright citizenship rules which her heroine, Margaret Thatcher, would soon abolish in the 1981 British Nationality Act. She has compared her British passport to the golden ticket that let Charlie Bucket into Willy Wonka’s chocolate factory."
I never known much about her but she says some terrible things about disability and mental health in the past. One day if she ever experience pain and difficulties in daily living perhaps although she never need benefits herself she will understand how wrong she been.
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I actually think Badenoch's statement is pretty much what you can expect from a Tory statement. It's a way to keep with the principles they apparently believe in (which is why I've kept saying that the Tories would not be a better option), but also giving them an out to vote against the bill if it suits them without losing their core support. If they now vote against the bill, Badenoch can say that it was because Starmer refused to meet their criteria and they are not for negotiation on these points. In short, it saves face.
It's a brutal statement because it puts Starmer in an impossible position. He already has this much rebellion with the cuts at the level they already are. If he were to curry Tory favour to pass this bill by committing to harsher cuts, it would be outright war and I think the Tories know it. It could 100% lead to a vote of no confidence, which is probably their real aim.
Until we know where we stand with the amendment/the bill, we don't know what will happen. There is undoubtedly going to be some kind of benefit reform, whether this bill or a revised one down the line. This vote is all about making it clear where the red lines are for those making the decisions.3 -
Having said that if Starmer takes the Conservatives help how will the Labour Party backbenchers react?? Kemi is boxing him in so to speak. Whatever Starmer decides it's not going to be good for him.
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Can the amendment go ahead and wreck the bill without kemi ?
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God I hope we aren’t 🥲
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The entire welfare issue has been rushed. Labour had the option to look past a first term and introduce sound, compassionate policies that would ensure better healthcare that might enable many to return to work. Money could have been saved by ensuring those who will never work are not reassessed. They could have considered taxing PIP. But no! Despite a huge majority they've tried to fight off Reform.
I cannot see Starmer agreeing to the Tory demands. They might as well form a coalition against Reform.
What's next?
The real Labour MPs need Tory votes to pass the ammendment to halt the Bill next Tuesday unless MPs are shattered by KS and KB flirting that even more support it. I doubt this will happen. So there'll be a vote at the end of the Second Reading. I think the Bill will pass to its next stage.
It's devastating. All in 24 hours.
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I hoe you are right 🤞
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Labour have responded to badenock
A Labour spokesperson said: "We're fixing the abysmal mess the Tories left behind, and MPs can either vote to keep a broken, failed welfare system that writes people off, or they can vote to start fixing it."Next week's Bill is a test for the Leader of the Opposition as to whether her party has learned anything at all by being roundly rejected by Britain"
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Some of them said,apparently, they didn’t want to vote and walk the same corridor’s as reform and now Starmer could possibly form a kind of coalition with Tory’s
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how would labour voters react?it could cause labour voters to abandon the party in they're droves if he made a deal with theb tories as it would prove labour and tories are the same.
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HMG, to use your words "treating you as adults," while also taking away the support you need to thrive, (such as these benefit cuts, adult social care, inaccessible and overpriced public transport, destruction of the NHS, toothless equalities law) is an oxymoron.
"My life my choice" cannot truly apply under these circumstances. And sadly, that's what supporters of assisted dying in a capitalist system like yourself refuse to accept.
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