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  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 414 Pioneering

    Only catching up on posts now? Do you think these new concessions will be voted through next week?

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  • geckobat
    geckobat Online Community Member Posts: 204 Empowering

    Hopefully we can get through this, all we can do is try. It definitely helps to know somebody else on here is in the same position with the same reasons for having not applied yet, I thought I was silly for not doing it before but they make it so awful to go through, who can blame us?

  • bton1968
    bton1968 Online Community Member Posts: 156 Empowering

    Get bbc news on ... announcement soon

  • ashmere
    ashmere Online Community Member Posts: 69 Empowering

    From Benefits and Work

    Labour still planning to force PIP cuts bill through with minimum scrutiny

    Labour have made it clear today that, regardless of any concessions they might make to rebels, they still intend to force the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill through with the absolute minimum scrutiny parliament allows.

    Lucy Powell, Leader of the House of Commons, announced the proposed timetable for the bill today.

    Powell told MPs “I want to reassure colleagues that we take parliamentary scrutiny and process of bills extremely seriously, and that’s what our parliamentary democracy is all about.”  

    At the same time she revealed that the second reading will take place on Tuesday and every other stage of the bill – committee, report and third reading - will be rushed through in the space of a single day the week after.

    Not only that, but as feared, a symbol on the parliament website shows that Labour aims to have this bill certified as a money bill, removing any effective power from the House of Lords to amend it.  The final decision on this rests with the speaker, after all amendments have been voted on.

    We covered the fast track procedures for a “committee of the whole house” and a money bill here a fortnight ago.

    Labour’s plan will make it much more difficult for rebel MPs to scrutinise and amend any concessions offered by the government, as this series of posts on Bluesky by Ruth Fox,  Top of Form

    Bottom of Form

    Director & Head of Research at the Hansard Society explains:

    The Government cramming Committee, Report & 3rd Reading into 1 day the week after 2nd Reading (so much for intervals between stages...) means if they pull the Bill they will have 2 days of Commons business to fill. But of greater concern is that this timetable has important implications for...

    ...those Labour MPs who have signed the reasoned amendment. If the Govt promises concessions in advance of 2nd Reading those will only crystallise at Committee Stage on the 9 July. If they are not quite right, or what the MPs think they were signing up for there will be little time for making...

    ...changes. If normal procedures are followed the Government should table amendments at least one sitting week in advance - so by the end of Wed 2nd July, the day after 2nd Reading. Non Government MPs will be able to table their own amendments up to three sitting days beforehand - so by the end...

    ...of the sitting on Friday 4 July. But if MPs are not happy with the proposals made they will have to be resolved on the floor of the Chamber itself on the 9th. This is where the lack of time for reflection, taking advice, can get messy with amendments being proposed and voted...

    ...on almost in real time. The Bill will go to the House of Lords but it is a money bill so the Lords does not normally have a Committee and Report stage (it is “negatived” in parliamentary parlance) to amend the Bill. They debate it at 2nd Reading and then the remaining stages are a formality.

    This underlines how important the Commons scrutiny is. There is no revising backstop for money bills.

    So, it seems clear that the government still intends to railroad this bill though before the summer recess, even if they have to give some ground in order to do so.

    https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/labour-still-planning-to-force-bill-through-with-minimum-scrutiny

     

  • geckobat
    geckobat Online Community Member Posts: 204 Empowering

    According to BBC now it's only 'severely disabled' that won't lose LCWRA.

    Isn't that exactly the same as what they already said and rules out a huge amount of people?

  • waylander9602
    waylander9602 Online Community Member Posts: 73 Empowering

    Totally agree, evrey single person on here deserves to treated with dignity and looked after financial if needed! Please apply for pip. We all need to stick together ❤️.

  • geckobat
    geckobat Online Community Member Posts: 204 Empowering

    Very true. Now we're just in a bad situation all round.

  • bton1968
    bton1968 Online Community Member Posts: 156 Empowering
    edited June 2025

    Bbc stating meg hillier ready to withdraw amendment ...

    Just reporters opinion

  • waylander9602
    waylander9602 Online Community Member Posts: 73 Empowering
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I wonder if there are more concessions that we haven’t heard of yet . Like separating lcwra and pip and the scc

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Also whether you have a face to face or phone assessment record it . Don’t trust them as they can trick you last minute. They did it to me . From what I’ve heard if they know you’re recording they can’t lie

  • waylander9602
    waylander9602 Online Community Member Posts: 73 Empowering

    I think lcwra people get moved onto new health elements

  • geckobat
    geckobat Online Community Member Posts: 204 Empowering

    Oh definitely, I need to remember to do this! I don't want to give them any extra chances to lie about it.

  • bton1968
    bton1968 Online Community Member Posts: 156 Empowering

    I guess there will be....

    The coming hours and days will tell

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Ask for a phone assessment. The dwp actually put me down for phone last time as I was stressed . But whatever assessment you have tell them you’re recording them so they know they can’t lie

  • bton1968
    bton1968 Online Community Member Posts: 156 Empowering

    Anyone know how many mps have signed the amendment .…

    Are they dropping out with the news of this agreement with starmer ?

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