Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.
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The people I'm talking about are not disabled people online. The people I refer to online run accounts on IG, Tiktok, YouTube etc. telling people to quit their jobs and how to claims thousands every month from the government. They have zero interest in helping people with legitimate problems. They provide step-by-step guides how to maximise your welfare payments, even explaining how to fake certain conditions.
The government/dwp are clearly aware of these accounts, but seem to prefer to use the abuse as a platform to justify punishing all of us.
Scope is amazing. As is Benefits and Work. I've never seen people on here encouraging people to cheat the system.
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Feels like they are hoping to get the bill through without detailing future plans for LCWRA. As has been suggested, they want a blank cheque to proceed with the next phases of their so-called reforms. Not only on LCWRA, but also reforming the PIP descriptors which could easily hit the people they are pretending to be protecting. Claiming some vague plan to include experts and people with disabilities doesn't commit them to anything.
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Hi @secretsquirrel1 - whilst there's no harm in asking the GP you normally see for a letter, they may likely have a charge for this, & do they actually know much about PIP? How often have they seen you dress/undress, use the bathroom or budget? You don't particularly need info about your conditions, it's how these affect your functional ability to attempt/do any of the applicable activities/descriptors.
Whatever you decide, the most importance thing is your own anecdotal evidence so try & give a couple of detailed, recent examples as to the difficulties you face for those descriptors, e.g. when did this happen, where were you, what exactly happened, why, did anyone else see this, &, importantly for you, how did it leave you feeling afterwards/the consequences, e.g. any increase in pain/fatigue/unable to repeat the activity as often as you'd like?
Remember PIP is how you are the majority of the time, & if you can/can't do an activity 'reliably.' See the section on 'reliability' here, tho this all is good info:
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I’ve seen my go quite a bit lately due to two other diagnosis’s . I always provide a go letter just so they can confirm all my conditions though I also sent my medical notes last time . The only letters from my specialist was many years ago when the diagnosed me but obviously I’m discharged now . Can that go against me ?
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If the number of people who play the system according to you is not large maybe 10000, then what would be the point of introducing vouchers to stop them playing a disability game?
You are suggesting that the number of people who play a disability game is large or very large and that’s why if a voucher system will be introduced that will stop people from playing this game.
And if people would not play a disability game then there would not be a necessity to implement a vouchers system.
So yes, you are implying that there’s a large or very large group of people who play a disability game.
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How many disabled, and elderly/ pensioners are there in the UK population of 67 million citizens
AI OverviewIn 2022/23, an estimated 16.1 million people in the UK were classified as disabled, representing 24% of the total population. The UK also had around 12.7 million people receiving the State Pension in May 2023. Elaboration:
- Disabled People:
- The number of disabled people in the UK has been increasing over time, with the latest data indicating that 16.1 million individuals identify as having a disability, according to the House of Commons Library. This represents nearly one in four people in the UK.
- State Pension Recipients:
- In May 2023, 12.7 million people were receiving the State Pension. This figure is based on the latest data available from GOV.UK.
Additional Information:
- The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) is responsible for administering the State Pension and various working-age, disability, and ill-health benefits, according to GOV.UK.
- The proportion of people with disabilities has increased across all age groups, including children, working-age adults, and those at state-pension age, according to GOV.UK.
- The UK government also provides various benefits and support systems for both disabled individuals and pensioners, including the Personal Independence Payment, Attendance Allowance, and Pension Credit.
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The latest estimates from the Department for Work and Pensions' Family Resources Survey indicate that 16.1 million people in the UK had a disability in the 2022/23 financial year. This represents 24% of the total population. 2 Oct 2024
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Hi @secretsquirrel1 - being discharged by a consultant shouldn't matter, as the review is about how you are now. Anyway how are the DWP supposed to know that any of us have been discharged unless you send in a letter which says this.
I don't think your diagnoses will be in doubt, but if you want to use a letter from your GP that's fine.
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I guess I’m worried that I can’t get any recent letters from my consultant as there isn’t treatment so you get discharged. But I have several letters from the past that I’ll send again. I’m not leaving anything up to them . Thank you chiaried
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To everyone concerned about the proposed changes to CB ESA, you haven't been forgotten. However the 2nd reading of the 'Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill' which will have it's 2nd reading next week, is just about those 2 benefits, & why most of the current discussion is about UC & PIP.
There's still time to respond to the Govt's Green Paper as the proposed changes to the CB ESA & JSA are at least being consulted upon. Please see the following from section 151 onwards. You can either respond to this & the few other bits that are actually open to consultation, or email in a reply.
It's said right at the end of this,
Please email consultation.pathwaystowork@dwp .gov.uk
if:
- you would like to respond via email, or
- you have any other enquiries specifically relating to this consultation
You have until midnight 30 June to reply
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I know I kept wondering when is it coming. They always send them months before your awards up so it’s normal. Just got to get it filled out and my info together. I’d really love a paper based assessment for a change so fingers crossed 🤞
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Just tell them that you no longer see a consultant because there’s no further treatment available. I’d been discharged before my last review - I told them plainly why and that it didn’t mean I’d improved. They accepted my explanation
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It's annoying that this question has not been asked, as far as I can tell, by anybody in a position to do so.
I suspect you're right, they don't have a good track record so far for keeping promises and this isn't even that because it's so muddled and unclear. At this point, I don't trust anything is secure for us at all.
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Well so far the concessions seem to barely go far enough. Surely they wont curry the favour of the rebel MPs?
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It isn't for for purpose and absolutely useless for assessing LCWRA claimants. It also fails to assess pain and fatigue so it's terrible as it is.
I constantly come back to the same thought I had when this bill first came, that their only intention is to cut claims no matter how they have to do it, and once they get the bill through how can anybody fight it?
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If that’s the case why does mobility have two different descriptors one for how far you can walk outside and one for planning journeys safely etc . Second part is clearly for those who suffer panic attacks etc .
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