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Hi, I'm still not fully understanding what everything means...Could someone tell me what happens to me in my situation.
I get LCWRA, Was awarded this in March 2024, This was to be reviewed within 12 months, As of yet I e not heard anything. Will I lose this come next year?
Pip wise I get standard mobility, Daily living I scored 4 points so didn't qualify for that. This gets reviewed June next year, Should I try again for the daily living element?
Thanks in advance for any replies
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Hi SS,
I believe that is what it means yes.
That is certainly almost definitely what he seems to be saying. Short of any retraction.
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My thinking is just my thinking if you have more than one diagnosis that could be constantly where one may have moments of clarity pain free could be over ridden by another diagnosis that takes over so constant and also triggers that make illness worse like being round people work controlling emotions ect we have given this our all it's passed noting we can do gather all medical evidence and fight because this has taken us to hell and back and we are still standing oh I can imagine them celebrating but remember they have broken so many human rights and they recieved a letter from un stating they have strong evidence of this !! Watch this space ps if I find my mp voted for this I will send my last ever email stating I will do everything in my power come may I organise a group in my area to get him out I sent him 50 emails voice messages me and millions because come may they will be scared uncertain frightened they will lose everything just like we have been for months !!!!And we have our say then this was the time to prove who was a good mp over shadowed beautiful wonderful mps who stood and spoke from the heart and soul they must be shattered and thanked they wanted this as much as we did I cried my mental health gone to pieces we will have to come down from months of this I couldn't have got through this without any of you including people last year ❤️ I'm preying the human right part of all this is what will bring them down the next fight pip but we would have reserved our energy for that they haven't won because they cheated did cowards way well starmers way doesn't like people to have opinions or challenge the bill because the Lords would have shredded it here's to another day my good friends peace to us all allow ourselves that break noting happening immediately and hopefully something amazing happens before then
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Yep and 16 to 22 years old can't claim I don't think that was even discussed so are we all going to be forced on pathway to work I just give up amd I tell you all those MPs who voted for this come may get them out !! Heartbroken tired scared overwhelmed
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Noting can't be challenged in court Noting vote all Labour mps who voted for this in may I feel despair too I can imagine we are all pretty low
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I just feel sorrow sorry I just don't trust them as so much on pip which is fantastic but the protection for disabled people who can't work will we be forced to Pathways to work job coaches that will do tailored packages ?
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AAh Smart God they make my blood boil
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Intreasting because we actually have a letter from United nations stating many human rights violations
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This is on the gov website. So if you are waiting to be moved to uc , do you fall as new claimants who get less ? Also what do the clarify as severe conditions
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Err, actually no, I take that back, according to Latest on UC and PIP bill as Labour gets through third reading
Severe conditions criteria
There have been no changes to the extremely hard to meet severe conditions criteria as set out in the bill. These will come into force for new claims in April 2026 and will decide whether claimants receive the higher rate of the UC health element and whether they are subject to reassessment..
Timms did seek to reassure MPs claiming:
"The severe conditions criteria in the bill exactly reflects how the functional tests are applied at present. That is in guidance. It’s being moved in this bill into legislation. It does take account of Parkinson’s. It does take account of MS. Because people need to meet the descriptors reliably, safely, repeatedly and in a reasonable time frame. And so I can give a very firm assurance to those who are concerned about how the severe conditions criteria will work for those on fluctuating conditions.
"The word constantly here refers, as I said in my intervention earlier, to the functional criteria needing to apply at all times, not to somebody’s symptoms."
We consider this reassurance to be disingenuous. We’ll be writing more about this in the near future.
So, looks like Timms and Co are lying, trying to pull a fast one, sharp practising sharks, and wideboys, were in government we can do whatever we want, in comparison to you plebs in every other industry and profession, your rules dont apply to us etc etc..
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I was going to ask if someone would look closely at what Timms said and break it down because to me that part stuck out like a sore thumb, the way he worded it/the play on words as always seemed ambiguous. unclear to say the least, it really struck me but I couldn't put my finger on why.
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I think most of us have more than one diagnosis really. If I just had fibromyalgia I may be able to do more with painkillers, though right now I have to limit them due to other conditions. It’s thevME fatigue that’s the worst thing .
I don’t even know what changes they’ve won tbh . The only thing is the reduction in the health element for new claimants. But it works out about the same as legacy esa so I’m not sure why it’s so important now than it was for esa .0 -
secretsquirrel, I still think there needs to be much caution around what Timms said yesterday, as we know full well, what he says and what he does are two very different things. The only concession I got from yesterday, that's if you can call it a concession as it should be part of his review anyway, was that he will listen to disabled folk and organisations and he will use those discussions when he applies changes PIP. The bit about fluctuating conditions and severe conditions I need a lot more convincing before I believe any of that.
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I saw it there, too, but it was only quoting the Order Paper that read "expected to be certified as a Money Bill".
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What an awful government mrsBB . Cannot be trusted at all . After all of us , pensioners disabled and now send kids
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Looks like we will have to delve more Zipz but its so hard to find a source for it, are they purposely keeping it a secret ?
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This has broken alot of us I'm so angry disappointed if we trusted them maybe feel slightly different but no way trust them and them today read a group of Labour mps doing something about poverty I don't know I don't know if anyone's like me I'm a trigger mode I can't believe it pls make sure if your mp voted for it vote them out mine Was against but didn't attend!!
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Ok ...
So let me get this right ....
If someone like myself is on ESA / LCWRA but no pip ....
We will still be assessed through the WCA , until it gets scrapped sometime in 2028 ....
Now , am I right in thinking that the SCC will be made part of the existing WCA as soon as it's passed into law ?
Am I also right in thinking that if you have a WCA reassessment and you don't satisfy the SCC this DOESN'T mean you loose your ESA / LCWRA automatically....
Not satisfying the SCC criteria basically just means you don't have the extra bonus of not being reassessed again .…
So it's possible that you don't satisfy the SCC criteria , but still can satisfy the lcwra descriptors and retain your ESA / LCWRA award ....
Not satisfying the SCC criteria doesn't mean you automatically loose everything is what I'm saying
You can still pass the descriptors and keep your lcwra / ESA , it would just mean you would have another reassessment down the line .... Basically exactly how it's always been
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Zipz, I have now read that ''There is no public declaration yet from the Speaker confirming the Universal Credit bill has been officially certified as a Money bill'' I guess we still wait.
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