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What about healt element of uc though when wca scrapped
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Ps and work commitments
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Can someone please summarise what is going on. There are so many messages and it’s too confusing. Are they completely removing LWCRA? or reducing it? Or keeping it at the same amount and just not increasing it?
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My understanding of this is , when the WCA is scrapped , the health element of UC will be decided through the new pip assessment that takes over from it and what ever criteria it holds ( 4 point rule not being part of it anymore )
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I guess work commitments would apply if you didn't pass the new pip assessment
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I don't think it's being kept under wraps. The status of the Bill is now up to the Speaker. His decision might not be immediate in this case. Perhaps we won't know until the Bill reaches the Lords. The House rises for recess on 24th. Here's the latest from B & W:
What happens next
At the time of writing we do not know if the bill has been certified as a money bill. If it has not, then it will go to the Lords who can put forward amendments in the normal way.
If it is a money bill, it will still go to the House of Lords, but this is a formality. In theory, the Lords can suggest amendments but, because it is a money bill, the government are free to simply ignore them. After one month the bill as currently written will become law.
The changes in the bill, however, will not come into force until April 2026.
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Anybody else trying to get their head around the 400 amendments and what was/wasn't accepted last night? 😅 You're not alone! Scope are working on an update to the previous blog posted on our website.
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A lot of people saying momey bill they want it passed by summer resee or whatever it is we suffer why thier having banquets the king is in on it they all are this was all premeditated they just put the Parliament clown show on for us I knew if it was that lady speaker go through did yo usee her keep looking nodding at Liz and that thing timms
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My thoughts too, I did notice he refused to say the disabled people in the review would have a veto power, as the MP who asked said how can it be an equal review if one half can't veto. He said they hoped for a consensus. Honestly I feel one of the biggest mistakes last night was not getting it into the bill that the review would be equal and fair because as many of us have said timms is not to be trusted
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From the Benefits and Work website:
"Proposals such as the abolition of the WCA, the proposal to amalgamate contributory ESA and JSA into a single time limited contributory benefit and not paying 18-21 year old PIP recipients the health element of UC is not affected by last night’s vote. They will all require separate legislation of their own."
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Here's what I wrote about the Bill as a Money Bill earlier. See below. Even if the Speaker does certify it as a Money Bill, the Bill could not be passed by recess. It's only two weeks away.
IMHO, this Bill does not meet Money Bill criteria. However, the status of the Bill is now up to the Speaker. His decision might not be immediate in this case. Perhaps we won't know until the Bill reaches the Lords. The House rises for recess on 24th. Here's the latest from B & W:
What happens nextAt the time of writing we do not know if the bill has been certified as a money bill. If it has not, then it will go to the Lords who can put forward amendments in the normal way.
If it is a money bill, it will still go to the House of Lords, but this is a formality. In theory, the Lords can suggest amendments but, because it is a money bill, the government are free to simply ignore them. After one month the bill as currently written will become law.
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We consider this reassurance to be disingenuous. We’ll be writing more about this in the near future.
Yep I do too, that's the exact part I need convincing of where it relates to conditions.
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Yet lots more to come with parts not even voted on yet. It will remain like this for the foreseeable future, think we just need to accept what we have been told for now, then prepare for the next round of this circus.
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Well that's not as terrible as it could of been I spose 🤷.... Just need to concentrate on passing a standard WCA , you never know we may get lucky and satisfy the SCC criteria aswell , then that will take us up to when the WCA gets scrapped which should be around April time .... And let's face it that will be a big undertaking so there's a good chance we won't have anything to do with the new pip assessment until some time in 2029 , then we just will need to go from there
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What does that mean another votev
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So we don't know if it's a money bill is that what your saying head all over the place
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We don't know yet whether it has been certified as a Money Bill.
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