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I think it means another (or maybe more than one) Bill in the future, yeh. I can't keep up tbh!
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Catherine, Jasmine got this info from B&W
From the Benefits and Work website:
"Proposals such as the abolition of the WCA, the proposal to amalgamate contributory ESA and JSA into a single time limited contributory benefit and not paying 18-21 year old PIP recipients the health element of UC is not affected by last night’s vote. They will all require separate legislation of their own."
So it looks like those issues are yet to be legislated on, as clear as mud as always ☺️
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Benefits and Work Site under News - recently posted.
NewsUniversal Credit Bill listed as money bill for House of Lords
Published: 10 July 2025
The Universal Credit Bill (formerly the Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment bill) has been listed for its second reading in the House of Lords as a money bill.
According to the UK Parliament website, the second reading and all remaining stages of the Universal Credit (Money Bill) will take place on 22 July.
This means that the Lords can suggest amendments, but the Commons can simply ignore them and the bill will become law one month after it completes all its stages in the Lords.
Along with racing through the committee, report and third reading stage of the bill in the Commons in a single session yesterday, this is another tactic by Labour to prevent any scrutiny of legislation that will take money away from hundreds of thousands of future disabled universal credit claimants.
It also makes it even harder to trust that the government will be seriously interested in the views of disabled people when the Timms review begins its work after the summer. Genuine consultation does not seem to be something that this Labour government can bear to be involved in.
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OMG YogiBear ( sorry about the name mix up my head today ugh.) I was almost convinced it would not go through 😡This really is a serious blow, so sneaky and underhand the lot of them.
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@YogiBear Thank you. Stunned. The stampede to get this through is startling. It's 48 hours before recess. The House will be empty.
EDIT: The Commons' ammendments to the Bill reduced it to such a degree that what remains could legitimately be certified as a Money Bill as it reaches the Lords: "Make provision to alter the rates of the standard allowance, limited capability for work element and limited capability for work and work-related activity element of universal credit and the rates of income-related employment and support allowance."
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I'm shocked. I've emailed a number of disability charities etc just to make them aware of this.
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I just knew it, how can we now have faith ( not that we ever did ) that Timms will conduct an honest and fair consultation.
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Stunned too Zipz, after reading there were parts of the bill that would stop it becoming a money bill.
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See my edit. I can see how it got certified now.
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They just do not care, what an eye opener this whole sorry saga has been.
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Thank you Zipz, I have a lot to learn in this area, I believe I was reading and believed the same as you that it would not pass, thank you for helping to clarify so much for me and the forum ☺️
Edit to add, thank you to all who have helped me understand to some degree very difficult political processes☺️
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Have no faith not getting hopes up I will just take it as it is Thanks for explaining
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Me too feel floored
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Hopefully the good law project looking and seeing any hunan right aspects they can try to get on ofcourse it's a money bill like I said they want to go summer recess this what they where put here to do tall governments always want to be the one to tackle benefits and having more than one human rights experts on side no brainer I'm not even going to say what my personal thoughts on what they may do to pip sorry spelling bad he's been put in that position to break uk
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Timms review already been written come on they know exactly whats planned and all the protesting means noting he's void of all emotions he plays dirty stops the voices of protesters uses the law to bully and intimidate and pull people into line he did that immediately when he came to power he's systematically taking changing laws behind our backs daily the one hope if corbyn does make a group that we get behind that we have a PM who supports genocide that says it all
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I don't know what to say well I do but can't be repeated what a nightmare trying think of ways to survive this nightmare rent a room then be terrified every minute oh god if only they would make clear scc this is worse than sunak I despair I can't talk to daughter people just want to disappear they are breaking every human rights even money bill doesn't protect this for that surly ???
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Apparently that's why they took out pip I read somewhere that couldn't be classed as money bill with pip may be wrong
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By 2030 hardly anyone be claiming benefits everything was always aimed at 2030 even esa universal credit was to be fazed out 2028 2029 till moved forward we have to accept we have till 2028 to figure something out what I don't know seriously they are looking at coming out of echr we have no rights i
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Catherine, thanks for posting this, as my head is all over the place today have I read right that people with ADHD can still claim PIP ? Thanks
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