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  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 4,351 Championing

    As you know, there's an ammendment tabled for 9th to remove the insistence on NHS diagnoses. News from "The Guardian" adds weight to that ammendment:

    Charity prepares legal challenge after NHS board pauses ADHD referrals for over-25s

    ADHD UK says over-25s wanting assessment with Coventry and Warwickshire board have no choice but to pay privately

    Rachel HallNotifications offMon 7 Jul 2025 11.43 BST

    A charity supporting people with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) is preparing a legal challenge against a regional NHS board that has temporarily stopped accepting referrals for adults over 25.

    Coventry and Warwickshire integrated care board said any new referrals for people over 25 would be paused from 21 May to reduce waiting lists for children.

    Several other ICBs, including Herefordshire and Worcestershire and some in London, have previously paused ADHD referrals but have accredited other providers for GPs to send referrals to under “right to choose” legislation.

    ADHD UK understands that this is the first time that local people aged over 25 will be able to obtain an assessment only by paying privately, which one former patient did at a cost of £1,500.

    The charity is beginning the process to mount a legal challenge under the right to choose legislation, which allows patients to choose their provider for certain healthcare services when referred by their GP.

    Henry Shelford, the chief executive of ADHD UK, said: “It’s ridiculous. We know one in 10 men and boys and one in four women and girls with ADHD will at some point try to take their own life, so we know there’s a danger.

    “We also know that ADHD medication can have a significant positive effect and you can’t get it unless you have a diagnosis. It’s part of the discrimination and a lack of taking ADHD seriously that we face every day.”

    Shelford added that it could set a worrying precedent for cash-strapped trusts cutting services elsewhere in the NHS, including other ADHD services.

    Dr Imogen Staveley, the chief medical officer at NHS Coventry and Warwickshire ICB, said the “emergency policy” had been introduced to address “the unacceptable ADHD assessment waiting times, currently affecting over 7,500 children”, some of whom were waiting up to 10 years for assessment in the local area.

    She hoped the pause would “support the development of a sustainable, all-age ADHD pathway for the future”.

    ADHD is defined by the World Health Organization as a persistent pattern of inattention or hyperactivity-impulsivity that negatively impacts academic, occupational or social functioning.

    Anita Thapar, a psychiatrist who chairs the ADHD taskforce set up by NHS England, said services were struggling because they were “playing catch-up” with the changing understanding of ADHD.

    “The research on ADHD has really matured in the last 20 years but the services have not been able to catch up with what we now know about ADHD,” she added.

    “There were concerns initially: is ADHD being overdiagnosed? The research, evidence and data used in our taskforce shows that in England – though this is not true of all countries – ADHD is under-recognised, under-diagnosed and under-treated.”

    She said that ideally ADHD would be diagnosed in childhood, but in reality many people were missed or misdiagnosed, especially females. There are negative mental and physical health outcomes – including obesity and cardiovascular disease – as well as societal ones, including an increased risk of ending up in the criminal justice system, in poverty and not doing well in school.

    Part of the problem is that services were designed when ADHD was considered rare. It is now known to affect 3-5% of the population, and therefore psychiatrists needed additional training to diagnose it, Thapar said.

    Sarah Walter, the integrated care system network director at the NHS Confederation, said integrated care boards were making tough choices about “the services they commission given the very tight financial envelope that they need to work within”.

    She added: “It is clear that current waiting lists for ADHD are too long, and commissioners and providers are having to take a pragmatic approach to respond to the needs identified. In some instances, this may mean prioritising certain groups, be it by age or length of wait.”

    David Hare, the chief executive of the Independent Healthcare Providers Network (IHPN), said there was ample “local capacity available in the independent sector which can be used to cut the backlog of care and improve access to diagnosis and treatment for all those in need, regardless of age”.

    Before the Coventry and Warwickshire board’s pause, Andy Morrison, from Coventry, paid £1,500 to get a private assessment when he was told he would have to wait up to three years on the NHS. He was developing an alcohol abuse problem and had been unable to hold a job for longer than six months. He is now on medication, which he has found life-changing.

    “I’ve never looked back and getting the diagnosis gives clarity and context – you almost grieve for the life you could have had if you had been diagnosed in the first place,” he said.

    A spokesperson for NHS England said: “ADHD services are under significant pressure from a huge rise in people coming forward, and we know that is resulting in unacceptably long waits for assessment and treatment – particularly for children and young people.

    “While local NHS teams are responsible for taking action to tackle excessive waits, the NHS has set up an ADHD taskforce to examine ways services for patients can be improved.”

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    I've emailed loads mps I don't put my details in name address ect some ask but alot have responded I've emailed every other day you know before all this never once emailed him and thier vile putting through as money bill vile they must know it's a done deal already set in stone apparently if it's the lady speaker she's close with starner it's just knowing once gone through can't be challenged I was hoping or dreaming someone put a lady minute court order to say unlawful but that's wishful thinking also I'm clueless

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    I read substantial risk is support group which I'm in but as you said unclear

  • geckobat
    geckobat Online Community Member Posts: 204 Empowering

    I agree they should get rid of the NHS rule considering the state of it and how hard it is to get help.

    My fear is that they might remove the rule for ADHD only if they even consider it, and leave it in place for everything else.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 4,351 Championing

    That would be outright discrimination. The NHS idea is itself rickety in law.

  • Dav1D
    Dav1D Online Community Member Posts: 75 Empowering
    edited July 2025
  • geckobat
    geckobat Online Community Member Posts: 204 Empowering

    I could see them trying to get around it by saying 'because the waiting list is above X amount of years' when the reality is the NHS is a mess all round.

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  • Asia23
    Asia23 Online Community Member Posts: 75 Empowering
    edited July 2025

    Unless they decide to abolish reassessment of the current claimants in the LCWRA/Support Group, as the Tories proposed last year, reassessments will restart sooner or later.

    The Tories' proposal in November 2023 (as part of their welfare reforms) to abolish reassessment of current claimants in the LCWRA/Support group was wholly predicated on them getting through their WCA reforms, if you remember. Once they lost the election last Summer, Labour took up the Tories' appeal against Ellen Clifford's judicial review of the consultation on the WCA reform, which the High Court ruled unlawful in January this year. So Labour abandoned the Tories' WCA reform. Therefore, there is zero chance of Labour now proposing not to reassess current LCWRA/Support group claimants before they plan to abolish the WCA entirely in 2028/29.

    I do not think the Timms review will revive the 4-point PIP proposal to restrict eligibility for PIP. It has proved too damaging for Labour politically. They will never get it past the PLP in future, not after what happened last week. I also think Timms won't dare risk as onerous cuts to PIP eligibility as they hoped they could get away with early in their Parliamentary term. By the time he comes back with his proposals in the Autumn of 2026, the time it will take to get through Parliament will get them too dangerously close to the next general election cycle. I think the 4-point PIP proposal is dead for the rest of this Parliament. And a lot of political pundits think the same.

    I just don't see the rationale now for postponing WCA reassessments until after April 2026 for the low hanging fruit in LCWRA/Support Group the green paper cited they will initially target - short awards and substantial risk. Their policy document cited a saving of £300 million from off-rolling or downgrading those awards. The only barrier the DWP face currently is the lack of capacity with assessment providers. I would keep an eye on any plans for recruitment of more assessors by the providers in the near term.

    The Benefits & Work website in a recent newsletter has published that reassessments have started again. See link:

    Universal Credit and Personal Independence Payment Bill in brief

    The DWP has begun WCA reviews again. So existing LCWRA claimants may have their award reviewed before April 2026. 

    Their information is usually solid, isn't it?

  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Online Community Member Posts: 17,439 Championing
    edited July 2025

    I was just in the middle of emailing my MP & thought to read through about the proposed amendments, & saw that yet more amendments have been published today.

    An interesting amendment proposed by Dr Marie Tidball on p18 about the 'Timms review;' she perhaps is thinking along similar lines to @MW123 in at least having a Disability Co-Production Taskforce chaired by an independent person. Please see: https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/59-01/0267/amend/universal_rm_cwh_0707.pdf

    I am still going to suggest Baroness Campell as a disabled peer should be asked if she would lead the review, as was my intent when I started my email.

    Edited to add my MP has now been emailed.

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  • Asia23
    Asia23 Online Community Member Posts: 75 Empowering
    edited July 2025

    The rationale behind restarting the reassessments from April 2026 is because the bill in question will only come into force April 2026 and not before. 

    Ah, that makes sense.

    But what do you make of Benefits & Work's newsletter recently saying WCA reassessments have started? They wouldn't be saying that if they didn't have inside info, would they?

    I am in the initially targeted cohort (substantial risk), as you know - not sure I should rely on believing that they won't come for me until after April next year, much as the idea gives me comfort. And they can start their targeted reassessments at any time. They don't need to rely on this Bill passing through Parliament for that. They already have the power to restart reassessments of short awards and substantial risk without it.

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  • Asia23
    Asia23 Online Community Member Posts: 75 Empowering

    Well, from what you and B & W website newsletters say, then WCA reassessments have always been ongoing in however a limited way. Even more reason not to believe they will leave me alone until after April next year. My award is in a targeted category, after all.

    I was so relieved to think I would be left alone for another year when they published their plans in March... but after what happened last week in Parliament, now I'm not so sure.

    Anyway, thanks for your insight @Passerby

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  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing
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    Limiting eligibility to British citizens?? Tell me I'm crazy is that what she means

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    One tories admenment suggest stopping pip for mild depression anxiety adhd

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    What is substantial risk I read it's support group is this correct

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    Probley asked 10 times how do you know if your in substantial risk keep looking up all confusing

  • lil12
    lil12 Online Community Member Posts: 17 Connected

    I was in 'support' group ESA many years ago then automatically went on to LCWRA.I believe I am classed as 'substantial risk' .

    I am unsure also ..

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