'Exorcism' victim Wins Compensation

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  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,983 Championing

    And this is the 21st century folks - An 'exorcism'?

  • Girl_No1
    Girl_No1 Online Community Member Posts: 361 Pioneering
    edited July 15

    I knew zealots undertake 'Pray The Gay Away' on behalf of their loved ones, and/or force their loved ones into 'Conversion Therapy'. But, that's new - exorcism.

    I'm biased because I've always believed there's very, very little good that comes from public/perfomative religion.

    Personal, reflective religion is a different beast, I believe.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,983 Championing

    All a load of cobblers, but that's only a personal view!

    I was forced to attend church until the age of 15. Bitter? Not much!

  • Littlefatfriend
    Littlefatfriend Online Community Member Posts: 199 Empowering

    The Guardian is reporting a story from The Times? Slow news day!

    I suppose that could be worse.

    Apparently "Each diocese has at least one clergy member trained in both exorcism and psychiatry to assist with such matters." I'm curious where psychology and exorcists find shared opinions. I've never seen it.

    Some of the most beautiful people I've met were/are very religious. At Newcastle Cathedral each Sunday we (the choirboys) had all afternoon to fill between morning and evening masses. The provost often helped us learn the power of peace. It was a great thing to do and be part of.

    The "Current beliefs and practices" part of this article demonstrates well how the various branches of all religions struggle to agree with one another:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exorcism_in_Christianity#:~:text=beliefs%20and%20practices-,Anglicanism,ministers%20in%20the%20Episcopal%20Church.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,983 Championing
    edited July 15

    Whisky or cognac are the only spirits I believe in!

    My mother is very religious, but pretty much none of the rest of my family attend church.

    I've told my mum to stop lighting all those candles for me, as they clearly aren't helping!

  • Ostia
    Ostia Online Community Member Posts: 72 Empowering

    I am wondering why this man attended this event and how an "exorcism" came to be offered. Very strange and no doubt scary for him too.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,983 Championing

    I believe the lad in question was under their spell at the time, but later shook the nonsense off.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,983 Championing

    I think they should be sued for all the paedophile priests they have protected.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,201 Championing

    Wow that must have been so traumatic poor guy I'm glad he got heard and compensation seems we are going more back in times everything people fought for over the years been stripped off us human rights freedom of speech protesting oh so much more starmer disturbs my mind I've limited my social media was getting way to much all they been putting out

  • Ostia
    Ostia Online Community Member Posts: 72 Empowering

    Ranald, it is simplistic to label all religion as harmful. For a start, the idea of the right to life and the equal value of the disabled to able bodied was a consequence of the Christian faith supplanting the pagan values of Rome and its empire. Unwanted children were routinely exposed ie left to die in the street ………vs the Christian concept of each person having a unique and precious value. This is easily verifiable in history accounts.

    Of course it was not always lived out. The paedophile priests, ministers and laymen coverup in particular was inexcusable. But the vast majority of believers try to live kind lives, even if it means struggling with failure at times. The secular world likes to point fingers and write people off when they fail in virtue or self control. The Christian faith emphasises forgiveness, repentence and trying again and again to do better.

    Many addicts rely on their faith to give strength to overcome their problems…AA was founded by RC members, for example.

    Best wishes

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,983 Championing
    edited July 15

    I didn't mention religion being harmful, that was another member; I referred to 'a load of cobblers'.

  • Ostia
    Ostia Online Community Member Posts: 72 Empowering

    Oops, apologies!

    Ostia

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,983 Championing

    No big deal! I probably shouldn't call organised religion names lol.

  • Ostia
    Ostia Online Community Member Posts: 72 Empowering

    To: Ranald

    Hey, we are free to think and say what we like, hopefully though not being deliberately unkind….!

    By the way, I think religion is described as "organised" if it holds regular meetings and has appointed officers, but noone within the churches describes them as organised! Christian faith took this form when it was no longer possible to meet in small homes due to the expansion of numbers and the need for a supportive community to belong to and to be accountable to.

    Apologies if you already knew this!

    Best wishes

  • trouble5316
    trouble5316 Online Community Member Posts: 54 Connected

    I feel if I walked in a church it would burn down never been in one im 52

  • Wheeled_Weapon
    Wheeled_Weapon Online Community Member Posts: 542 Pioneering
    edited July 15

    What a well reasoned and well thought out way to stereotype an entire group!

    Maybe grow the hell up and stop judging everyone the same.

    For the record, yes I am Christian (CofE) but I don't think or feel that way. I'm a metalhead who swears his head off and covered in tattoos and piercings.

    Imagine if I came out with the same childish drivel -

    All disabled people are...

    All women are…

    FFS, it's fine to have an opinion but to be so rude about it is just wrong.

  • Carpy
    Carpy Online Community Member Posts: 473 Empowering
    edited July 15
  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,983 Championing
    edited July 15

    In the first series of Last of the Summer Wine, Compo stubbed his cigarette out on the floor of the church. Blamire scolded him that he was on consecrated ground, but Compo shrugged, saying he was wearing rubber soles!

  • trouble5316
    trouble5316 Online Community Member Posts: 54 Connected

    Laughs

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,386 Championing

    I have been a member here for a few years now, and I have always found the religious threads that appear occasionally to be engaging and genuinely insightful. Someone else’s faith has never felt like a threat to my own views, and I don’t see why it should. It’s always interesting to hear another perspective.

    Belief doesn’t require agreement, just a basic respect for difference. What has surfaced in this thread isn’t disagreement. It’s derision. A handful of replies haven’t just dismissed belief they have taken pride in belittling it, with no thought for those reading who may hold religious affiliations, not only to Christianity but across all faiths.

    It isn’t religion that causes the problems, it’s the refusal to respect any viewpoint beyond your own. The irony? Those most eager to mock belief often treat their own certainty like gospel, minus the humility, plus the sermon.

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