Immigration hotel costs

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  • WelshBlue
    WelshBlue Online Community Member Posts: 935 Championing

    One thing that is over looked when mentioning illegal immigrants and hotels … is the profiteering of the hotels/ hotel chains and security firms. It's basically a cash cow for them.

    They rub their hands with glee at every boat crossing

    The same could be said of why job centres need up to 5/6 G4S security guards, sometimes out numbering the clients in them … all they can do is observe and report … but I bet the bill is at least £1 million a week for 600 JC's … tightening purse strings isn't always on the obvious

  • Passerby
    Passerby Online Community Member Posts: 872 Championing

    Don't you also think that they're also provided with cruise trips around the world while they're awaiting the outcome of their asylum applications?

  • Passerby
    Passerby Online Community Member Posts: 872 Championing

    Have you ever wondered why Nigel Farage has not been bothering to attend any of those protests at hotels?

  • Passerby
    Passerby Online Community Member Posts: 872 Championing

    How come you've missed discussing that "Asylum seekers are using taxpayer handouts to pay for their gambling habits in casinos, using their pre-paid benefits cards intended for basics like food and clothing."?

    Make no mistake, asylum seekers receive only £9.14 per week, and if buying a lottery ticket or scratchcard to try own luck amounts to gambling, then many of you guys would be too in big trouble when your bank statements would be scrutinised for what you've spent your money on outside the basics.

    C'mon, we're talking about £9.14 per week for food and clothing.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Online Community Member Posts: 872 Championing
    edited August 13

    FYI, the UK, as a signatory to the 1951 Refugee Convention and its 1967 Protocol, is obligated to fulfill its responsibilities towards asylum seekers. These obligations stem from international law and require the UK to provide protection and assistance to individuals who meet the definition of a refugee. 

    The very same who have swindled such a staggering amount of public money, directly or else, are using you as means to their own end .

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,784 Championing
    edited August 13

    A refugee is someone who has been forced to flee his or her country because of persecution, war or violence.

    Not just for a "better life".

    But how do we decide who is a genuine refugee ?

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,784 Championing
    edited August 13

    And - Yes, immigrants are entitled to claim certain means tested benefits !

    and how can they prove (we check) their financial status ?

    My sister lives on Portland and I understand that last year, when the immigrants were housed on the Bibby Stockholm (a ship in the harbour) - they were offered, round the clock, dental and medical care - when the local residents do not have such luxuries !

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,784 Championing
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  • idk
    idk Online Community Member Posts: 66 Empowering

    That claim is false, asylum seekers aren't entitled to PIP, you may want to stay away from those right wing Facebook groups, or wherever you're getting this weird information.

    As for the Bibby Stockholm, that was more akin to a prison boat than a luxury liner. There wasn't round the clock dental care, and the medical care was probably also substandard, again, akin to a prison boat. Those asylum seekers were treated as less than human.

    Really though, you're fighting against the wrong group, why attack other marginalised humans? Those who have wealth, and power constantly try to get those if us without it to attack each other.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,784 Championing

    The Bibby Stockholm was not a prison - the residents were free to roam around Weymouth and Portland as they wished - they had bus passes provided for them for free.

    Bed and Breakfast normally costs upwards of £50 per night in Weymouth..

    The fact is that they were coming FROM far worse conditions (tents) so why should they expect luxurious conditions ?

    There is talk, now of holding them in far worse conditions……. in large holding camps, behind barbed wire in huts….

  • idk
    idk Online Community Member Posts: 66 Empowering

    They got to go out for a walk?! Heaven forbid!

    Human rights are for all humans.

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,477 Championing

    Asylum seekers in the UK receive disproportionately low financial support under current law. Those in self-catered housing are given roughly £49.18 per week to cover food, clothing, travel and toiletries. For those in full-board accommodation, such as hotels where meals and utilities are provided, the allowance drops to just £9 per week for personal items. While housing and utilities are fully covered for asylum seekers, the cash support provided is so meagre that it barely sustains basic needs.

    In stark contrast, individuals receiving ESA over the age of 25 are entitled to £92.05 per week. However, unlike asylum seekers, ESA recipients must use this entire amount to cover all living costs, rent, council tax, utilities, groceries and more. Though ESA appears more generous on paper, in reality, recipients often struggle to afford essentials like heating and food during winter, let alone cope with the soaring cost of living.

    The disparity in support structures underscores a system that fails both groups, leaving them trapped in cycles of deprivation.

    Neither system is adequate, and the root cause lies in the government’s refusal to address systemic failures in the social safety net. Empty rhetoric about “reform” and “fairness” cannot mask the neglect of critical services such as healthcare, education and affordable housing crises that fuel tensions between vulnerable groups who should be united in demanding basic rights. The status quo prioritises inaction over accountability, exacerbating suffering while claiming to uphold public welfare.

    Immediate systemic change is essential. The state must invest in equitable, accessible services for all. Asylum seekers, in particular, endure years of legal limbo, their futures uncertain, a form of psychological cruelty that degrades both dignity and mental health.

    Processing applications should take months, not years, to ensure those in need of protection are swiftly identified and supported, while others are fairly processed. Such efficiency would benefit not only asylum seekers but also communities and taxpayers, reducing strain on resources and fostering trust in a system that currently feels broken.

    The path forward is clear, abandon hollow promises and confront the realities of systemic underfunding. Only through tangible investment in people and infrastructure can the UK rebuild a welfare system that upholds human rights, protects the vulnerable and unites society in shared purpose rather than division.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,784 Championing

    There is absolutely nothing nearby to walk too - there's the end of chesil beach (an immense pile of stones) but apart from that, it's all views !

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,784 Championing
    edited August 13

    How are they treated in, say Germany ?

    How much do they receive there ?

    Seems to be 441 euros per month

  • charlie79
    charlie79 Online Community Member Posts: 341 Empowering

    To be honest I think people are stressed. Last recession people could afford to have a roof as rents were attainable over head but struggled all luxuries put on hold .

    I think it's the fact that people in uk are being told to accept that the country is in debt . Losing there homes and mental health rife.

    People with disabilities having trauma placed on top. With uc trying to get financial help to survive. Having to show evidence to validate anything and wait for claims or having to wait extensive waiting times to get help.

    All this being British citizen but someone can come in a boat and get all support roof food immediately and a case worker appointed immediately. That's what's fueling the anger.

    I think the boats it needs to be a joining of all nations to support refugees . Not individual country's with different policy's.

    Countries have no money and climate war this is just going to increase and create hate and racism .

    We are all born with 2 ears eyes nose blood and bones. It's a shame peace doesn't rule the world and money does

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 4,518 Championing

    I'm butting in with a personal interest before/in case this thread is closed!

    Wibbles, I know Portland well and have family there. My dad worked at AUWE on Portland. Did you and your sister grow up there and if so, where did you go to school? It's very unlikely we're related but you never know!

    I agree it was an odd place to moor the barge but there must be things to do there if some islanders have never set foot off the island, even to Weymouth 😉

    According to Google, the 500 asylum seekers once housed on the Bibby Stockholm have been relocated around the country and the barge was decommissioned in January.

  • idk
    idk Online Community Member Posts: 66 Empowering

    So they get money money in Germany? So there must be a reason why they choose the UK, over say, Germany, perhaps they have family here, or jobs they can do?

    Honestly, if people seeking asylum were allowed to work, thus paying tax, that might have a net benefit on the economy. Let's face it, there are a lot of British born people who refuse to do certain jobs, say food delivery, or fruit picking for example.

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