Brexit - 10 Years On.
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if brexit was done properly, I believe we would be as good as other places in the USA, booming with promise & even have the seeds planted for becoming as economic viable as Asia, the UAE.
problem is the majority of the public, the tories & the MSM absolutely ruined any hope - ANY HOPE - of ever getting a proper deal.
I love Spain, France, Greece, italy, tureky etc so don't get me wrong.
We needed a complete cut of rules & regulations, it can be done. We needed a WTO deal which meant free markets, we needed to reboot the notion that capitalism is bad, there is 1 type of capitalism that is beneficial for all.
if I was old enough I would of voted leave but sadly most celebs, politicians were so tied to mother EU - they ruined it….
forgiveness won't come from myself as I view many of these "notions "what happened as a ruination of my future ….. & future generations.
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also excuse as i say I wouldnt read a gaurdian news rag if somebody paid me to.
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What happened to the £250 million pound bus. I quite like MSN news etc, don’t know why you keep pulling them down.
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Are we allowed to talk about Brexit?
There's a notice about political neutrality… presumably that means we've got to seek out someone who can talk it up, in order to balance the reality?
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The thing about Brexit, which I think is kind of important, is that there is no known record of the decision to leave.
The Cabinet Office has been asked to produce the record of the decision and they say they are "not aware" of one.
The court should decide soon on whether to order them to look harder, or to own up to there not being one, but my thinking is that if there is no record, then how could it meet our constitutional requirements?
How can the country make the biggest decision since we picked sides in WWII without it leaving a trace?
https://ico.org.uk/action-weve-taken/decision-notices/2025/01/ic-334851-w0w6/
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If Brexit had been done properly, then we wouldn't have left the EU.
It was an advisory referendum and the only thing that the result told us was that parliament was badly out of touch.
The only way to do Brexit properly was to address that problem first, and then look again at the question of the European Union.
Leave would not have won a second time, and they probably wouldn't have won the first time if the referendum had been made binding by democracy rather than by diktat.
The electorate of the UK is not stupid and democracy works a lot better if politicians don't assume that it is.
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well said but I could always see that the EU was a questionable entity at best even at school, I remember we had to do these projects during 2012 for the jubilee - I refused to as I didn't believe in the rhetoric, I was lucky as my mom & pop had made me jion UNESCO as youth member (only thing they forced me to do).
I did a course in 2011 I think regarding freedoms,rights etc….. very cool.
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I think we all know what Brexit was really about and it certainly wasn't for the people.
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I voted remain, chiefly because unlike most of the original leave voters, I don't hate immigrants, I also correctly predicted the Tories would mess it all up.
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Do we?
A favourite answer relates to tax avoidance, but apparently their rules aren't actually much stricter than ours.
I say "Apparently" because I don't actually believe it, but what bothers me about that is that nobody mentioned it until afterwards.
I can only imagine that they had had a gentleman's agreement, because it would have been unsporting to use such a persuasive argument…
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The decision that NF vowed not to accept if the result was close? The one he then accepted because it suited him?
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The French gentleman has a very unfortunate set of initials, does he not? 🤔
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He does. He also has a very unfortunate set of principles (unfortunate for us).
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Is this what you mean?
Isn't it clear that this is what the nation voted for?
That and for Parliament to deal with the "Crisis of confidence" that Hilary Benn spoke of.
Although he argued that we would face that crisis if parliament told us the truth, and therefore they shouldn't, rather than recognising that the crisis was the very reason for the result.
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NF's principles are lower than a Rattlesnake's bum.
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He does nothing but moan when he loses, he'll probably leave reform and start another
party, worse luck
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He showed his quality over the five million 'gift' from a Thailand based billionaire, that is he ran away from questions. Nothing but a thing skinned carnival barker. Remember when he threw a wobbly over the Coutts Bank saga?
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Yes I do, bit of a saga that was. He'll always runs away from things, if he got in, his mate trump would be running our country.
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He reminds me of Trump in many ways, especially as things that would end the political hopes of a person, it doesn't seem to touch him; that Dulwich College business for one thing.
Imagine him as PM? He would make the blonde oaf look like a workaholic!
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Not quite 'the nation' but one third of the electorate.
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