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PIP INJUSTICE!
sophie18
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I was given 4 points for the mobility part of pip and so I appealed and lost. I received their decision this week. Ivwent along with a friend and we both commented that they would reject the claim. The Dr didn't really asked the kind of medical questions that would tell her how I cope with the pain. However after everyone had questioned me the Dr commented about the highlights in my hair. My nails that were done by my daughter and were in a state, then she asked me about the shoes I was wearing she thought they were high. They were clarks and it was a wedge heel about an inch. I was told by the physio not to wear flats and to wear the kind of shoes I was wearing. I believe she had an influence on the decision.
i don't believe that just because my family and I want to look reasonabl I should go around with grey hair and flip Flops!!
i need help in what to do next please. Do I appeal again or make a new claim?
i don't believe that just because my family and I want to look reasonabl I should go around with grey hair and flip Flops!!
i need help in what to do next please. Do I appeal again or make a new claim?
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It's outrageous that some people will only think a person is disabled if they look dishevelled. There is no reason why highlighted hair has any bearing on a person's disability, nor varnished nails either.
I never used to get my hair done but I do now & even a benefit advisor said 'why shouldn't people help themselves feel better!?'
I hope this negative attitude is going to change towards disabilities and appearance.
Theres a beautiful little girl with Down's syndrome who is a model and actress and has the most amazing positive outlook on life that she can do whatever she likes...is that positive exuberance supposed to end once she becomes an adult? No!
it's worrying that there are people like this in charge of making the decisions as regards PIP being allocated.
Matilda I will take your advice thank you and ring the courts in Monday.
My hair is coloured and highlighted - but my hairdresser always does it for me.
I'm prepared to do it!
Im sure there are many who are in favour of making effort when they can instead of assessors being judgemental...
Some people where an unnoticeable wig for health reasons...does that make them alright bc they look clean & tidy?
Ignorance.
It was the so called who asked me if I was going somewhere and there were diversions what would I do? What's medical about that? I would have to follow and go back home if the diversion went on. I think that really the question is ambiguous and any answer given can be interpreted ad they see fit. I'm so depressed if i lose my home I feel that I'll take my life! I don't know what to do any more I'm tired of fighting them!!!
i am in the same boat, went for a review was completely honest assessor rushed through questions. nothing about my mental state. last sat got the brown letter and got 4 points and 2 for mobility so now gone from enchanced to nothing.
I requested my pa4 assessors report and noticed there are contridictions and errors and gave me a review date so really mine not fit for purpose.
There were so many made up lies to fill the gaps and she said i had no mental health problems which is a joke.. she not even a trained nurse i checked her out she just a pen pusher who has had bit training.
make sure you get your assessors report and ask dwp for MR ring up but make sure you ask for it in writing too.
Its the 1st stage of appeal you have to go through this part 1st before appealing.
Basically the DWP can overturn decision from the 1st decision maker, but what i have read it does not happen very often. Tend to rubberstamp it as they dont like admitting there wrong.
I rang up last week asking for my M R and then put it in writing that i requested a M R and sent them medical information and why i should get point.
Have you got the assessors report yet?
I recieved that and it was lie after lie was in melt down all last week, but today im feeling positive and ready for the fight to get my points i deserve.
As I've posted earlier on this thread, I suggest that you re-post in the 'Ask a benefits advisor' category where there are benefits experts who can advise you about what action you need to take next.
ive just posted it on "Ask the Beneft Advisor" I had a little difficulty finding the place to post my query, thank you.
The feelings and how you feel are so hard to put into words but your not alone so many people are going through this and goverment dont seem bothered sinful.
its so hard to express how you feel and all the emotions running around your head until you go through it. I dont eat sleep due to worry and im only just submitted my M R last week but i bombarded them with urgent faxes from mental health written saying my report is there words unfit for purpose.
Today gave them the pip handbook guide clauses also about missing evidence and lack of care with the whole assessment and the assessor fabricating things like she copied pasted off someone elses report to fill in gaps. She even said got no mental health problems but i have anxiety ocd drpression paranoid thoughts and suicidal thoughts said i have none.
I stopped medication as need to think as tablets make me not care or think.
So at min on a bit of a high.
emailed my MP today.
Have u been to cab or anyone for advice?
someone said to me keep fighting dont be stastic who gave up get what u deserve.
I had my motability car taken from me even though I had a Mandatory Reconsideration in operation.
In fact,my car was returned to the dealership one day then exactly one week later I got the result of the MR, which gave me back enhanced mobility.
But by then it was too late.
Once motability give you a date of hand back, I don't think there is any changing that.
Im sure although you have handed your car back, your award is now enhanced you can get reapply for mobility scheme after I think several months???
---check this---
Then,initially on PIP I was given 10 points for the mobility component and 8 points for the care component.
After MR, I was given 12 points for the mobility component and 10 points for the care component.
Hope this helps.
I spoke to motability and they are happy to negotiate with you should you be successful with MR.
This is what they told me;
If you still have your car when the MR comes through (and you are successful),then motability can stop the hand back and you can continue as you were.
If the car has gone back and your MR comes through after (and you are successful) then motability will ask for a proportionate amount of the transition £2000 back and let you join motability again. Not with the car you had, you have to start again.
If if you fail at MR and go to appeal and you are then successful,then after 6 months motability will accept you back and you start again with another vehicle.
You will not hand back any of the £2000.
In my case, my car went back and I had no idea if MR was going to be successful or not (I had read that it is rare) and fully expected to go to appeal, we decided to buy our own car. Literally, my husband dropped off the motability car and went directly to pick up the one we had purchased.
Had the DWP been a little bit quicker with the MR result, I would still have my motability car.
Thats life!
In your case worth it. Did you just send letter in or did you produce more evidence?
I didn't have anything.
I can walk. I am not in a wheelchair but I do use a walking stick and have a mobility scooter.
This extract is from the 'turn 2 us' website.....
On 1 February 2013, the government agreed to amend the proposed rules so that the assessment of PIP eligibility should take account of whether the claimant can not just complete an activity, such as walking 20 metres, but do this: