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What question would you ask your MP to make your Disabilty stress free

GeoffBosworth195661GeoffBosworth195661 Member Posts: 163 Pioneering
edited February 2018 in Disabled people
Being disabled is a very easy picking with so much injustice with 32% increase in a three month period that as wasted 1.2million with record compensations that again is apart of the 1.2 million coming out of tax payers money. PPI keeps coming up and this is the biggest percentage of stress that should never be put on any disabled person. 

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  • mossycowmossycow Member Posts: 495 Pioneering
    In answer to title question... Make all the millions of forms disabled people need to fill in online/electronic. 

    "I'm trying to live like a random poem I read that ended 'to bloom where we are planted"

  • GeoffBosworth195661GeoffBosworth195661 Member Posts: 163 Pioneering
    The feed back is what I was expecting and food for thought to every one assessment by no medical experience is not right. If anyone was in hospital and seen by a Dr and gave a wrong diagnoses which made you worse and caused problems, then you can claim. Does this mean miss diagnoses you can claim and the answer to that is I did and won two times.  
  • wildlifewildlife Member Posts: 1,314 Pioneering
    Hi Geoff, Unfortunately the complaints procedure is different for none government departments which the assessor providers are. This is what is causing the problem. They are classed as private companies and have their own complaints system in place. You have to first convince them you have a complaint then wait ages for a reply before you can move on to an independent complaints examiner (ICE). By that time your benefit has been rejected or is lower than it should be. ATOS are snowed under with people not happy with the way they were treated, DWP are sticking with a broken system going by what the assessors tell them is true when it isn't. They will continue to do this until MP's do something to give assessments back to DWP and even then they need to make sure assessors are suitably qualified and trained to do the job in a fair and proper manner. Otherwise nothing will change. MP's all over the country are probably being inundated with constituents asking for help I know my MP is so hopefully things will change soon. That won't help those of us suffering now except for future claims which means starting all over again. An ordeal most us haven't got the strength to even think about. So if you're going to contact anyone in government tell them enough is enough. We're not living in the dark ages people have rights and ours are being violated. If the PIP assessment form was studied from a claimants point of view there wouldn't be an "Informal Observations" section on it which is being used to record personal remarks about people saying how they looked and how they behaved. Nor would there be a Physical Examination with results from someone who doesn't know what they are looking for. The form would then concentrate completely on how the claimant manages on a daily basis and what they need help with. There should be no suggested scores for activities. That should be done by the Decision Makers at DWP based on all the evidence provided, the claim form and the assessor's report provided it was done properly. All illness and disability backed up by Medical Evidence should be believed in the beginning to allow more focus on the problems disabled people have day to day and the help they need.   
  • GeoffBosworth195661GeoffBosworth195661 Member Posts: 163 Pioneering
    edited March 2017
    Hi Wildlife, I'm at the moment halfway into investigating into this topic of which Richard Wren who is a director and award winning documentaries, He as four on the go around the country which he is covering the system and what the truth is behind this. The first showing will be in the autumn which MPs and Richards barristers have been looking into the system which will be case after case to make claims against them. Richard as a fleet of media groups which are keeping him updated. so hopefully justice will prevail this barbaric system of lives that have been lost unnecessary which this area is very serious. My heart goes out to the lost love ones and showed no dignity or apologising from the people that caused this. I should finish my filming when I am out of hospital but they have been filming the NHS as well while here which they found some interesting information. Thanks for the chat Wildlife, write again soon and any one else to chat of any news That Richard Wren would be interested in with how disabled are being treated. 
        
  • wildlifewildlife Member Posts: 1,314 Pioneering
    Thanks Geoff, I've emailed my MP today who has intervened in the past with a DWP problem so fingers crossed he'll help again. I will look out for the documentaries it's time this was sorted out. I'm busy trying to get my assessor brought to justice for what she did to me and all the other people she assessed during a very short period of working for ATOS. My surgery have evidence waiting for me of a day in February when I called an ambulance after having 5 Opthalmic migraines (loss of vision) in a week and thought it was a stroke. That was caused by shock after receiving the report full of lies. Anyhow am now waiting for a call back from a Decision Maker I've got some interesting questions to ask. Will post an update after that.       
  • bendigedigbendigedig Member Posts: 254 Pioneering
    I no longer have any confidence in the Parliamentary process.  I certainly have no confidence in government.  I dont think Ive had any confidence in the UK government since I learned why nobody liked Margaret Thatcher.  

    I would sooner write to Mystic Meg than write to my MP.  I would probably get more sense from Mystic Meg.

    I honestly cant think of a bigger waste of time than writing to an MP?  Sombody suggested the other day that I was wasting my time writing on here!  And that was a member of the SCOPE online community? Clearly he knows somthing that I dont..... I hope not :)

    Most MPs are on the fiddle. They most often consistently fail to represent the needs of their constituents and they have a dammed cheek expecting perks and pay rises for acting like a bunch of kids in Parliament.  What a load of old rubbish we pay them for?  Self serving slimey nest featherers that only start skulking about around ellection time.  Okay some are decent people but I couldn't name many, could you?

    We all know that we need better human rights in the UK.  ITS NOT SIMPLY A DISABILITY ISSUE.  We also need to ensure the rest of the NHS isnt privatised and we need to reverse the privitisation and dissmantling that has already taken ,and is, taking place.

    We need free health and dental care, free education from nursery to university and we need to culture a society that celebrates the strengths of the individual, a society that provides oportunities for all.... A true meritocracy that isnt based on how far your wealth power and influence can carry you. We need to care for our weak and our vulnerable.  We need to guide our impresionable and above all we need to combat ignorance, division and hate.  Unity and common purpose, working towards a better nation for all is what the UK needs.

    Yes the world is becoming an increasingly dark, sinister and depressing place.  Britain is comparatively well off to most countries in many respects.  Including human rights amazingly!  Arguing that we are better off than most though is not the right attitude.  Our rights as human beings are being eroded on a daily basis.  Briatain is in dire need of constitutional and electoral reform.

    Its about time the people woke up and did somthing about this before it is too late.  Perhaps it already is too late.

    if there are any MPs worth writing to then I would beg those few to start a movement for change.  Something the people of the UKcan get behind, to make our country a safer, fairer place to be.

    Im not writing a party political broadcast here!  Im just saying what I want frpm our MPs..  

    Perhaps Id be better off writing to Mystic Meg.
  • JusticeJustice Member Posts: 206 Pioneering
    I agree with much of the above. when my Husband had his first assessment for ESA he scored zero points. He has Parkinson's Disease, and has been profoundly deaf since Birth. Despite his deafness he has worked very hard from age 15 to 60 which is when the PD kicked in. The assessment was the most demeaning thing we have ever had to endure. The attitude is appalling. It is said that the assessors do not make the decision. In rality they do, this is just buck passing, all the so called " Decision Maker" at the DPW has to do is to be able to add up as far as 15. 

    The report of my Husband's assessment was  a travesty, a complete fabrication. we appealed of course and before it got to a tribunal he was put into the support group. The stress, the anger, and yes the degradation is inhumane, it is not too strong to describe it thus. I often wonder how the GP, the specialist Nurse, and even the Consultants feel when their word is also being doubted. How do they feel when a much less qualified( if qualified at all) person overrides what they say.
    Common sense has flown out of the door. resources are wasted. Next Monday my Husband has to attend another ELA assesment. He is 65 on July fifth so will have fourteen weeks and two days of working life left when he goe to be assessed. He is over four years down the line with a disease which is degenerative, and progressive, you see my point?

    also the form which the assessor wil have seen was actually filled in and sent back ten months ago, due to the ineptitude of the department he has only just received his appointment. The form is no longer valid. I am going to make damn sure that they listen to what has changed since it was filled in. I can tell you now that will be a substantial difference.

    Get rid of the predjudice against Disabled people, get rid of the persecution, don't farm out to money making businesses who care about nothing except how much profit they can make. The whole system is a fiasco, and I do not hesitate to say probably corrupt.
  • DasiydoDasiydo Member Posts: 94 Courageous
    Why can't do voluntary job on the farm? Why can't have any funds for my Staffordshire's Crouse?
    Why old student do animals care Crouse?
    V.shaw
  • wildlifewildlife Member Posts: 1,314 Pioneering
    Hi Justice, I agree with you. Can you not try and prevent your husband from having to go through a F2F assessment so near to his retirement? It's ridiculous. Maybe a phone call to DWP with new evidence of his condition, we are supposed to tell them when there's a change, and a good valid reason why he could not cope with the assessment? Is this a review if he's already in the support group? I have an adopted son who will be up for review soon. He has learning difficulties and mental health issues and very sensitive evidence of outbirsts of violence but no proper diagnosis as he won't engage with the Doctor or MH professionals. We think he has Asberger's. He's on PIP and we were lucky to get it without a F2F but am dreading any reviews. My poor hubby who is 69 now has to look after both of us. My son lives 10 mins away and I don't see him very often. The system does not cater for people who won't accept they have a problem. 
           As regards MP's ours is Tory but very good at helping us with any injustices. I can't fault him. I've just got the DWP to bend the rules in looking at my PIP claim again after the Mandatory Reconideration by convincing them the assessor lied and they haven't used the Medical Evidence as you say they just copy the info. of the assessor's report word for word. Well they haven't got away with it. 
    Hope things turn out well for you in the end....
  • JusticeJustice Member Posts: 206 Pioneering
    Hi Wildlife, and all. Thanks for your kind comments . So the dreaded ESA assessment is done for what it is worth. The Guy who did it was a Physio, probably in his late twenties at a guess. he was ok, not patronising or rude, but let's see if he puts things which are true when he fills out his report! I took heed from your experience Wildlife, made sure I asked his name( No badge!!). I then asked for his registration number. He looked totally shocked at this, and said he didn't know, but would find it out before we left. I had to remind him of this but he did get it for us.
    he is registered but only since July last year. I thought they had to have been registered fro two years, but need to check the facts on that. I also found an article on here after we came home from a " Whistle Blower" who had worked for Atos. One of the things she said was that if someone has a neurological disease,Parkinson's was mentioned, then they have to be assessed by a Doctor.
    I need to check that out too though before saying anything.

    We were cross because at the end he said did we bring any further medical papers, GP reports and the like. I told him they were sent in by our MP about three weeks ago, and that the MP also rang and spoke to the main assessment office. They never bothered to send them to the assessor. So IF Hubby is deemed fit for work we have a few things to complain about.

    I was also cross because we were on the bus on the way there when I received a chasing up call from the assessment  centre to say is he going to attend his appointment!!  I gave themn short shrift on chasing us up.

    Anyway off to bed now, thanks all again for support and company , this is a GREAT Forum xx



  • NystagmiteNystagmite Member Posts: 608 Pioneering
    It's difficult to pick just one. But I would love to know why they don't contact peoples consultants and GPs for PIP? It would save so much money. The nurse actually sat there and called my GP a  liar because I couldn't produce a 9 year old piece of paper. She made a lot of assumptions that can't be true.
  • izaiza Member Posts: 471 Pioneering
    Hi All, 
    You know I never so far used the MP services at all. I just hardly believe that the MP has power these day to force positive changes. 
    However, I always notice that MP's provide their services to people in community centres and libraries. 

    I got fantastic idea (what about those who cannot come?) of creating new role job models of MP - mobile MP who would come visit people to their own homes. 
    How assume it that ?

    Let me know what do you think about new post Mobile MP 

    Have a great weekend. 

    Iza 
  • basiclee08basiclee08 Member Posts: 71 Courageous
    can you raise our benefits at same rate of your mps pay rise please ;)B)
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  • wildlifewildlife Member Posts: 1,314 Pioneering
    Hi @Justice, So glad you've got the assessment over with. I rang HCPC to discuss my assessor's registration and was told when she 1st registered which was before the date you see if you do a search on the register. I think they have to re register every 3 years. However according to the job specifications laid down by DWP to ATOS for assessors they are also supposed to have been working for at least 2 years after registration before becoming an assessor. So something else to bare in mind although it may be difficult to check and not relevant if you should have had a Dr. for the assessment.
                    A DWP advisor told me the assessors have all the available evidence before the assessment but I don't believe mine did as test/xray results contradicted her lies to such a degree I think she's have been more careful. A lot has been happening to me but the story is on other discussions so won't repeat it here.
                    Could you see the screen? For PIP assessments you're supposed to be able to read what is being written and correct if necessary. I assume this is the same for ESA assessments.
                    Back to the subject of this discussion. I would ask my MP if anything is being done to get rid of private companies doing assessments and why are these companies getting away with so many lies, but as he's gone quiet and not answered my last email I may not get an answer.. 
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  • GeoffBosworth195661GeoffBosworth195661 Member Posts: 163 Pioneering
    edited August 2017
    @DannyMoore at times it makes me wonder with the amount of disability destruction I just cant understand why disabled are been punished through being unable to work. I find it hard to notice disabled are just easy targets to get survival money to persecute the disabled. We are living amongst no compassion. no understanding no justice.   
  • johnny100johnny100 Member Posts: 125 Pioneering
    I wrote to the minister (MP) for Disability and gave her my concerns regarding my recent PIP assessment,have not had a reply yet.I believe that contacting this person in large number about PIP etc just might [email protected] .Lets get as many E mail complaints to this Minister to give her a wahe up call.Its the only way
  • basiclee08basiclee08 Member Posts: 71 Courageous
    @johnny100 This is The lady Who Just made assessments Harder To pass and Changed Guidelines Once Again For Qualifying for PiP. Sadly Tories Not A One nation Party as they Say. But Same Old Nasty Party. Now if We were Bankers Do You Think We'd get Treated Like This?. I don't think So!. Hats off to you Johnny For Not Just Taking It and Wanting to do something. Speaks Volumes. Cheers Lee 
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    Like many other of her constituents, I wrote to my Labour MP some time ago about the issues with PIP.  In turn, she wrote to the then Employment Minister, Pritti Patel.  Pritti Patel replied saying in effect that it was Government policy to make it hard for people to claim PIP and ESA because 'taxpayers' (she means Government) should not have to fund lifestyles that 'taxpayers' cannot themselves afford.  In other words, the Government think that recipients of disability benefits are living the life of Riley.  And they seem to overlook that disability claimants are also taxpayers, if only indirect taxpayers.

    I recall that in fact the Labour Government in 1997 tried to cut disability benefits.  Disabled people protested by chaining their wheelchairs to the gates of Downing Street.  The cuts were reversed on that occasion - but I can't see the Tory Government doing this.  On the contrary, as we know, they are making it even harder for people to qualify for disability benefits.  And the Labour Opposition aren't putting up much of a fight against this.

    Our only hope is the tribunals who do uphold 65% of appeals.





  • basiclee08basiclee08 Member Posts: 71 Courageous
    @Matilda True In house of Lords Labour Peers Abstained From Voting . They Promise the World and When Elected It's. I am Alright Jack!. A Plague on All there Houses. 
  • johnny100johnny100 Member Posts: 125 Pioneering
    abolish the house of lords,a fancy title for doing nothing.They only look after themselves and the high profile that they can achieve.Its about time that we got some MPs voted in who really know the difficulties that disabled people have,some one on these so called committes to stand up for the likes of us.This government have not got a clue
  • bendigedigbendigedig Member Posts: 254 Pioneering
    How many MPs, Lords and or civil servants are actually specfically qualified for the roles they undertake in the governance of our country?

    If you researched this I think you would be horrified by what "qualifications" are held by those who supposedly know better than us about what is good for our nation!

    Its time people woke up a bit and realised whats going on.

    The people who are afforded the opportunity to become our ruling classes are all self rewarding servants of an upper class that employs them to keep us all living from hand to mouth and to perpetuate a regime that makes the rich richer and the poor poorer.

    Its as simple as that.

    Nobody is doing anything about it because those with power want NOTHING done about it.   NOTHING will get done about it either until we cease to allow an electoral process that allows rich buissnessmen and thier puppets to become candidates for election.

    There are many who believe that are electoral system is also not only a farce but fundementally corrupt.   Ask yourself this...... If these liars could get away with incresing thier term in government by fiddling the votes if they knew they could get away with it......... Would they?      

    The answer , of course is a resounding  YES.    The question is,  has this been happening in our ellections?   The answer is "if they can get away with it they will".

    Why do we all allow them to get away with so much?  

    The only politician who has spoken out about any of this is Corbyn.  In turn he has been villified by the media for his anti establishment stance.  A stance that favours the people of Britain over its corrupt and reprehensible state!  (Including the monarchy)

    Why would anybody try and paint sombody as a "wrong un", if this person is trying to encourage the people to take back control of their nation for hebennefit of the people?  Doesnt make any sense does it!

    HMMMM.  Could it be that the media and the corporate run establishment of the UK recognise Corbyn and people like him as a threat?  A threat to their status quo?  A status quo that favours THEM greatly?

    Is that why the Security Services (GCHQ, MI5 etc). Were and probably still are instructed to SPY on the likes of Corbyn?  How many UK citizens are monitored in this way?  Sometimes by "undercover Policemen".  Everybody thought the KGB were terrible.  Our security services are NO different.  Dismembered bodies found in bags in wardrobes,  torture, innocent people gunned down on the underground Etc.

    Dont get me wrong, im not getting party political here.....  Im just talking about wrongs and rights.

    I think a lot of people in the UK are very confused about wrongs and rights these days.  Mind you its no wonder when so many impressionable people are subjected to such a torrent of propaganda from the majority of media outlets.

    Is it any suprise that nobody seems to care about the plight of the disabled and other vulnerable sections of our society?  People are far too busy being awful to each other to either notice or care.  Those that have a "stake in the disabled", have just that, a stake,  they are aiming to treat disability as an "industry",  the evil sods even use that term tne disability industry?  ****?

    Step back,  take a good look at it all and really think it through......

    Why are we allowing this to happen?
  • johnny100johnny100 Member Posts: 125 Pioneering
    It would be nice if every week some of the forum E mail could be sent to the minister responsible for Disability,just to show how unmanaged the process  of PIP is not fit for purposeAll the deceit lies and whatever other words you can think of..This government dont give a monkeys.The bottom line really is cut cut cut this benefit no matter what your disability is..  
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
  • WheelyRachelWheelyRachel Member Posts: 67 Courageous
    Why is the government continuing to deny that since 2010 there have been cuts after cuts to social care. I'm prove my care has gone from 2hrs45mins daily to now just 45mins while my needs have gotten worse.
  • GeoffBosworth195661GeoffBosworth195661 Member Posts: 163 Pioneering
    I system for 2018 as being put in place that services on social care are up for tender. I will be fighting this case with my county with avoiding private contracts. This will mean further cuts awaiting to happen by cutting corners.
  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @GeoffBosworth195661 Pleased to meet you, sorry I must have missed this thread or post.  Great to speak to you.

    My simple question is stop revaluations of people like my self, continually being assessed.  Whether in their eyes fit  to work, then deciding another 18 months reassessed say I unfit.  Even though I am ill any way, when is that going to stop.

    Being going on past twenty plus years nothing, mentally, physical is going to improve.

    I am now in my early fifties, done employment, courses, loads of qualifications along the way.  In the time I was declared fit to work ,suffering stress, relapse of addiction history.  Plus attitudes of staff, bullying and the rest.  That goes with that.

    Since being sorted out by various charities that dealt with my mental health and addiction.  I have am clean but the overriding issue is still there having the fear of relapse.

    Last mental health charity met a support worker who took all I am saying on board.  The assessment again came around, signed me fit, very ill mentally, very concerned for my health.  The support worker stepped, wrote a letter for the assessment, I was due to have.  Contacted my doctor with me present plus spoke to job centre plus. 

    Now unfortunately the charity that supported me my time was upon me.  Only three years.  My fear will have to this again.  So that is a question asking my MP what is point of doing assessments the person is not only too old but now is the age has experience, qualifications limited and out of date.

    There needs to be some one out there looking at this.  Went on a training course last year towards January about ten of us all mid fifties and early sixties.  All of us had experiences I have just said.  The money wasted on training programmes wasted for members of the community like us.

    They needs to be a ruling on this.  I am not work shy, at one time in my life would have an been shown the way to employment. but know now that my chances are so slim and all the time wasted, energy, stress levels still cloud my mind all the years.

    Trying to get some where employment wise but held back by well meaning people and attitudes who interfered too much.

    I apologise for long post, I have said enough.  I have views and opinions on how we are perceived by the Government and also having worked for a number of Government agencies, departments.  I see the light.

    Take care hope to speak to you soon.
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  • jamie1965jamie1965 Member Posts: 85 Courageous
    I have seen first hand how the mps don’t care had to represent my company’s disabled work force few years ago at the disability confident conference in London the first one they had the people there where fab then David Cameron and his people came in they only seemed to want to get free lunch them took there publicly photos and left I was then asked to speak in the House of Commons to mps about how the system and work places make me feel and what I would like to see happen all the mp’s were invited yet 4 showed up mp Mike Pennington who arranged it was not happy at all at the turn out at all we weee all disappointed that the people who have basically been appointed to run out country and our life’s had better things to do could not even take a short time out of there day to listen to the people they were there to represent and what insulted us more is there is number of bars in there and when we packed up to leave lots of the mp’a where coming out and going in guess a pint is more important to them 

  • GeoffBosworth195661GeoffBosworth195661 Member Posts: 163 Pioneering
    [email protected] nerves are a condition that can change moods in many ways and for your self it ca not be nice. The brain in many cases have to be adjusted in certain types of conditions that are not related on just one type. These slap up courses are devised by people who create work for them selves and pointing in the right direction health ministers need to realise each person is different and mental health is a typical example that you crying out for help but end up with unnecessary drugs that create more deeper depths and disrupt the nerve system. Dont get me wrong about medication the medication that is issued can be a great help. If the wrong sought is given this gives a different action as not all humans are not the same. Assessments is one thing that will not go away and the reason changes can develop over a certain time for the better or good. I know that most assessments have been a shambles but this is monitored now. Profits before welfare of the disability which I will not dwell on this. I am so pleased that your addiction as been put right and you have worked really hard to put that right well done. You dont have to apologies for a long post this is an inspiration for anyone who are addicted to drugs this gives many a chance by if you can do it many addicted can sought them selves out. Take care Spiceman have a good day the best you can.   
  • GeoffBosworth195661GeoffBosworth195661 Member Posts: 163 Pioneering
    [email protected], after going through your comments I understand where you are comming from with mostly frustration, anger. We certainly have and still going through a turmoil around us. The country is not going to change it's ways in big ways unless the government want it. A attitude of we tell you and obey while we make the country disabled suffer with cuts after cuts. share holders assessment teams giving wrong diagnoses. Bendigedig when the voting comes around again you let your X make the changes. Take care bendigedig keep safe have a good day the best you can.  
  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @GeoffBosworth195661 Thank you for reply.  I agree with you about mental problems, relating to addiction history.  Which by the way I forgot to mention.  When a person talks about addiction, my fault.  

    Addiction could be alcohol or drugs.  Not just that as well I was at a mental health charity conference where the lists of addictions was endless from gambling to sex to shopping plus others.  The new one gaming.

    My addiction is alcohol being an alcoholic thirty years plus, turned to drugs to calm pain of alcohol withdrawal.

    I apologise for being honest I have learnt on this forum honesty is the best thing to talk about your health history.  I have fears that I have plus anxieties debating my health history.  Upsetting others that read my posts, still a taboo subject in public.

    Some thing that happened last year.  Mental health charity refrained from me talking, debating, discussing anything around the theme.  Yet there were people in the charity who had an addiction history like mine, if known about that we could have helped each other.

    Please may I also say if you do not mind one of the aspects of the assessments is the time taken to get a reply of the outcome.  I see this morning the Government looking at report on ATOS and Capita.  Lots need to be done I think.

    I would agree with one thing when you have an assessment, some times the outcome from the medical professional could be more sensitive, be more patience, tolerance.

    Last one I had the lady was a nurse no idea about how addiction and mental health connected.  My support worker had to step in and explain.  Attitudes of that nurse not least in my opinion not a clue, no sense of me and my problems.

    So do these firms that do assessments need to have better understanding of conditions and disability plus the long term effects.

    In the end are changes to be made for the whole system.  One I wished to see.  The appeals procedure.  Had a panel of Doctors who made the appeal procedure not only daunting but frightening.  I ended up wondering tell me now the result not hanging around another 3 months into Christmas waiting.

    Last appeal was two years ago, still a memory.  No need for that why that long.

    That if I knew then that any other action to take place, can I appeal again or can I give more information.  To be in limbo waiting long periods of time.

    May I also say I enjoy reading your posts on disability matters and issues.

    Take care, nice to have met you.
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  • GeoffBosworth195661GeoffBosworth195661 Member Posts: 163 Pioneering
    [email protected], it is good to get a better a picture but it is a addiction of substitute to relief. It does not change for you are an inspiration to a great deal of other people who are right now going through this hurdle. You have proved and must have gone through a great deal of ordeals and the things around you have got on top. If anyone is not feeling well and have any type of illness these assessment places should not put people stressed and this area I have brought up to get this soughted out. After many stories of miss diagnosed outcomes and so on. A investigation as already taken place and small amount have changed but not enough they still can do far better. A further investigation into the matter and monitoring are still on going. If you do not agree with the outcome you can appeal and have the grounds to over turn. You have mentioned about a support worker with a support worker you can ask for this to be soughted and helped filling in any documents. If you have any letters with your health do not throw away keep them in a folder and photocopy them and send with your health questionnaire this helps a great deal. You need to put every detail no matter how trivial it may be to you, it all counts. Finally if you need more details on this subject scroll the baron far right take it to bottom and click on Talk about PIP/DLA this will give you your answers to your situation. Take care spiceman the anxiety this is causing and stress that is making your health even worse and can not think straight. This is why you did not fill my forms in missing out other concerns. Be your self put all on the table and the questionnaire will be soughted with missed issues. Spiceman look after yourself.   
  • frecklesfreckles Member Posts: 258 Pioneering
    To have properly trained assessors not private companies..... who dont lie and cheat to get a bonus!!!!!! it would be better for them to dress in a uniform like a doctor or nurse has two and also when you send in genuine medical evidence off a doctor or consultant it should be properly looked at then we would, not have to go through this humiliating assesements also there should be a copy of your assesement given to you straight after the assesement therefore the assesor can not add or subtract any information once you have left the assesement room to which will no doubt hinder your claim which happended to me and countless other people i also think the dwp should take responsibility for reading and believing the assesors report they should look back at medical reports and previous assesements and if there has been no change in circumstances or your health condition has got worse over time and that is backed up by GP and consultants and phychatrist then that should be good enough grounds and evidence for the dwp instead of wasting money going through these humiliating assesements because i like many should not have to tell a total stranger my medical history
  • GeoffBosworth195661GeoffBosworth195661 Member Posts: 163 Pioneering
    Most are not even trained in the medical circle which is why a wrong diagnoses have been continued unnecessary deaths. The question is who is responsible and that group of hands should be brought before the courts. Even has I have this typed UN have started a investigation on this matter where leaders have been made aware. A proper assessor in any medical review should have the qualifications which is a breach of the law.   
  • frecklesfreckles Member Posts: 258 Pioneering
    Totally agree not an assessor who qualified in back pain etc doing an assesement with someone with mental health 
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    I would ask my MP how she would like to live on benefits and pay the local council 12 pound a month in council tax it is stressful because cheif exec earns you 250 thousand a year
  • frecklesfreckles Member Posts: 258 Pioneering
    MP,s are not bothered until its election time then they promise the earth but nvr deliver 
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 18 Listener
    the people in politics are the people who shouldn't Be in politics and the people who should be in politics are the ones who are not in politics
  • frecklesfreckles Member Posts: 258 Pioneering
    True but the ones in politics are the ones who are corrupt the good guys are left behind
  • GeoffBosworth195661GeoffBosworth195661 Member Posts: 163 Pioneering
    If you need anything done that is the best time to ask your MP you can go by that you will get it done quick. 
  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello I would like to say a few words or more about MP's.  I agree they seem to have their own agenda, that is true.  Yet what many people do not realise the Government and the laws are put into place by extremely, hard working MP's.  Who many do not come from privileged back grounds.

    Who work long hours well in to night and early morning.  A lot of them are also women more than ever in Parliament with young children.  Until you have I like have done many times.  Been to Parliament lobbying and involved in looking at disability.  How the country is run by going to PMQ's which you can do so  I have a genuine interest in political issues.  Especially around disability and the welfare system.

    I am not defending the actions of the Government what they have done.  To this community of ours.  The way we are treated. It is all wrong, we have a voice and that needs to raised when we vote.

    A lot of MP's do not have any idea of disability or illness unless they have come across it in their own personal lives.  I am also amazed by the lack of education, knowledge a lot of MP's have about our community.

    Please can I tell you that my interest began in politics because of a member of my family was a local councillor.  I never voted for her because she had us all ingrained with the ideals of her party.

    Which turned me off, then I realised the true meaning of what politics and how things are run.  Coming home to see the local MP in our front lounge.  Him the opposition to my Mothers party.

    Over tea and sandwiches cake and the pleasantries I asked I thought you disliked each other.  No not really we have to work together called Cross Party Support.

    This happens now all party committee on everything government says or do.

    I just thought I would explain about Government if you do not mind.

    In my own opinion this is my view.  I am being cynical.  MP stands for More Power or More Pay.  Some do think that is what the position is .  Believe me I have met them.

    In my previous employment as in Government positions agencies and the rest mainly placements.  The lower ministers come up to visit.  Totally unaware of the North and the situation then about twenty years ago.  They have no idea many ministers are not local never been up here.  As one quoted to the senior manager kept going on about it.  Very green lots of fresh air.  Many still do not understand the North.

    The situation has changed but all MP's may I say have surgeries in their local office  so if you have an issue they will duly listen.  They have  I know many of them do have concern especially if your MP like mine is a Labour MP.  The issues surrounding ESA and PIP plus anything else.  I have read quite a few posts where our community have contacted their MP's.  Got a reply.

    Thank you every body 
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  • GeoffBosworth195661GeoffBosworth195661 Member Posts: 163 Pioneering
    Hello Victoriad anyone who applies for work have an application form which states of any health condition in the last ****** Anyone who as proven by the hospital and GP that you can go back work on non pressure light jobs you have rights. If the person is unpredictable they would not be fit for work. This depends on the persons situation with some certain conditions and medication these all are put into consideration.  Employers have different application 6 months, 12, 2yrs etc.
     Police records are kept on file which employees can find this out with out problem if they have committed a long term sentence. The law changed to tighten after a certain incidents had been was employed but had a criminal record this caused shorten lives of patients. You can not have offenders of this crime going back into a similar job the other side of the country. This takes away medical licence. This also applies for different crimes that if it is related or similar they would not be employed. It is a very complex issued question but the employees have the answers if check outs are carried out.       
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  • maid08maid08 Member Posts: 307 Member
    i had a total breakdown in 1995 went to 7stone could not speak as the brain was dead  on my letter for pips doc has put chronic  depression since 1995 but i take nothing ?tablet wise  i just get angry which i find easier and people keep away
  • maid08maid08 Member Posts: 307 Member
    and yes i would employ you  why not  you aint running round with an axe
    ???yet??

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  • maid08maid08 Member Posts: 307 Member
    good on you those who have not been down the road of total  mental loss cant understand nor could they 3 months in hospital  gave me hideing space  then one day sat crying in corner another person called bill sat no life complete lost to life needed a shave i loked and asked nurse for razor hahaha   but exsplaint he neeeded shave so got one shaved him  then sat back down  stareing at him thinking at last  what the hell am i sat here grizzling for i could be like him  that day on was my recovery  am i strong nope  all my life i have fought but my brain gave up and said enough  at this moment im angry i can be treated as nothing  and will fight will i win prob not but i will not sit and allow myself to be put back to that time hence no tablets  and no crying its time others learnt we are ill we did not ask to be and if cash is their drive  then they will learn when life gives them illness  
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  • maid08maid08 Member Posts: 307 Member
    thanks axe girl  will be on phone in morning while doing my ofice job emailing capita dwp councle mp  house lords judge judy old kyle  see were it gets me  ohhh bye the way i got a dangly so im male hahaha

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  • maid08maid08 Member Posts: 307 Member
    Victoriad said:
    That’s a shock.......you’ve got a dangly! ( can’t all be perfect lol).  Us women are far superior lol

    Should you not be called @bachelor08. ?

    Another word of advice is don’t email anyone, instead take time out and write a good old fashioned letter on pen and paper.......it works wonders ! believe me when I say “the pen is mightier than the sword!”

    good point but they got a habit of loseing post even if reg letter   so i thought at least i can prove email had

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