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Depression, Sleep and Memory Problems

JazzguitarJazzguitar Member Posts: 180 Courageous
edited November 2017 in Disabled people
I am a 63 years old male in Whitleigh Plymouth Devon. How and where can I get help? Neville Pearson email 

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  • bevt2017bevt2017 Member Posts: 353 Pioneering
    Hi @Jazzguitar
    Im so sorry your having a hard time.
    Have you seen your doctor, about finding some help?
    If not you really need to make an appointment a.s.a.p.
    They can also refer you, for councilling.
    I hope that helps
    All the best
    Bev
  • JazzguitarJazzguitar Member Posts: 180 Courageous
    Thank you Bev. I will. Neville
  • bevt2017bevt2017 Member Posts: 353 Pioneering

    please let us know how you get on
    Bev
  • JazzguitarJazzguitar Member Posts: 180 Courageous
    Thank you. I am very depressed and I can't sleep. Neville Pearson
  • Pippa_AlumniPippa_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,851 Disability Gamechanger
    edited January 2018
    Hi @Jazzguitar, have you managed to speak to a GP yet? This would be advisable, as they are in the best position to refer you on to the most appropriate course of treatment.
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  • JazzguitarJazzguitar Member Posts: 180 Courageous
    Thank you all. I still can't sleep and I am depressed. 
  • bevt2017bevt2017 Member Posts: 353 Pioneering
     @Jazzguitar
    Hi neville
    Did you manage to see your GP?
    I know myself it's hard to open up to people. But I do recomend that you talk to someone. 
    My doctor helped Me, and I'm getting a lot of support.
    Please let me know how your doing?
    Bev 
  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @Jazzguitar Please can I advise that as we get older there are problems getting a good night sleep.  I suffer as you do from and I wish I could say it is easy to a solution.  I got effected by my lifestyle  when I was a young lad.  So I had to do something about this.  I was what they call a numbartal which means my nights were days and my days were nights.  Ended up sleep walking as well this all because of addiction history.  So I went to doctors for support but having mental health issues.  Having adjusted my meds and looked at diet and checking up with GP any other issues.  It is natural for all of us to think eight Hours is the norm.  Being around six to seven for your self and we get older even less.  It ha s taken me about twenty plus years to get a good bed time routine.  Look on the web for advice please I am worried not because I care because sleep is vital to the workings of the body.  I am sure speaking to SCOPE or speaking to someone like the Sleep Council or other organisations they can help.  I hope you get the help you need please take care.  Remember you are the one that can do this and it will take time please be patient.  I will and do understand what you are going through from a friend so do people from this community.
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  • AlexW_ScopeAlexW_Scope Scope Posts: 217 Pioneering
    Hi @Jazzguitar

    As well as the suggestions above, have you tried your local Disabled People's organisation in Plymouth? They have a wide range of services and may be able to help. Best wishes, Alex
  • JazzguitarJazzguitar Member Posts: 180 Courageous
    Thank you. I will try that. Neville  in Plymouth Devon 
  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @Jazzguitar How are you?  I hope you are feeling better.  Finding solutions to sleep problems you have.  I hope everything is working out.  Take care
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  • bevvypbevvyp Member Posts: 42 Connected
    Hello @jazzguitar I hope you went to the docs ? X my best support for my depression is on here, I was suicidal in august, still so but not so much so_ if that's understandable x depression is all encompassing and takes an awful lot to get on top of so don't rush and be kind to yourself xx good luck
  • JazzguitarJazzguitar Member Posts: 180 Courageous
    Thank you for your replies. I will try my GP again. MAybe he will refer me to The Memory Clinic in Plymouth Devon? He will not prescribe sleeping tablets. I ride 6 miles a day on my push bike, but still I am not sleepy when I get home. Best wishes from Neville in Plymouth Devon
  • bevvypbevvyp Member Posts: 42 Connected
    edited February 2018
    @Jazzguitar    I've not been able to sleep for more than an hour or two at a time for 5 months due to horrendous grief, my doc gave me 14 sleeping pills but they don't keep you asleep, just send you off but I kept waking up after 4 or so hrs asleep and then awake and fuzzy, if you're brain won't slow down try counting you're breathing, that sometimes bores me to sleep for a while x good luck
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    Breath counting can be very effective. As a refinement to just counting try counting in breath for a count of 5 ( or what ever level is comfortable for you ), as you count, feel your breath entering and slowly filling your lungs. Hold your breath for a similar count, then exhale, feeling your lungs deflate and the air leaving for a similar count. Count again before you restart the cycle.
    You will have to adjust the count to your own need so it could be in 5, hold 3, out 5, hold 3. a little practice will soon find your level

    CR  
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @Jazzguitar Hope you get sorted.  Noticing what you said you ride six miles a day.  Still do feel tired or sleepy.  This is a rock and a hard place damn if you do damn if you don't.  I found out exercising in towards evening does not work.  I have tried.  I used to go to gym about afternoon not evening.  Had to knock it on the head because after exercise.  You need to wind down relax take bath or shower then food to get energy levels up.  Advice I was given eat pasta, rice, lentils wholegrain with protein like chicken, fish or turkey.  Not too near set bed time like before you got to sleep.  I learnt nothing too spicy or heavy.  If you start thinking about sleep brain will not switch off.  You do need to have a set routine sorry that is the only way to sleep.  Take now be on here now.  My routine is had evening meal lots of vegetables and little meat plus pulses.  Heating go off at 8pm.  Now room will cool down.   Then hot milk and toast and honey, wholemeal.  Turn off all devices like this well before bedtime.  I aim around 9pm and 10 pm.  All plugs and TV turned off.  Except will play soothing music if I have to.  Sit about just relax heavy breathing.  Then go to bed.  I will admit this is practice.  Taken me around 10years or more.  Although I will get up if I can not drop off and wander around house.  Put something boring on TV that helps or just sit till I feel tired.  I am sorry I am not preaching here but I am and do understand the issues.  Best wishes and take care.  Winding down now.
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  • TopkittenTopkitten Member Posts: 1,288 Pioneering
    Exercise releases adrenalin and endorphins both of which will make you less likely to fall asleep. You need to do something relaxing before sleep, something like reading. As for turning everything off..... I don't personally think it makes a difference. If I am tired enough I will fall asleep even on here (which I did about an hour ago). I sleep better and longer in my chair with the TV on than I do in bed with the radio on. If I try turning everything off I just lay there, eyes closed, for hours.

    I have found that relaxation techniques work quite well but I have never been able to try them at home. I find it difficult to set everything up without starting to worry about sleep.

    As @thespiceman said, routine helps because the mind doesn't get active trying to decide what to do next and will remain in neutral.

    The first place to start though is to stop worrying about it because that is the worst thing you can do.

    TK
    "I'm on the wrong side of heaven and the righteous side of hell" - from Wrong side of heaven by Five Finger Death Punch.
  • JazzguitarJazzguitar Member Posts: 180 Courageous
    Great advice from all of you. Thank you so much. Neville
  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @Jazzguitar Thank you for comments.  Please can I say wish you the best in getting a good night sleep.  I know you will succeed.  Please can I also suggest have a look around your area.  For courses on Sleep and Well being and the rest.  I started doing this during my addiction withdrawal.  I met so many people like yourself.  All had similar stories to share.  I am same as you and do understand the issues.  Since doing these courses got good insight into how body works.  I wonder contacting SCOPE helpline advisors could be another solution.  I am hope and pray best for New Year Nice to talk to you best wishes.
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  • JazzguitarJazzguitar Member Posts: 180 Courageous
    \\\\\\you are all great. Happy new year. Neville
  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @Jazzguitar Thank you Please can I add do not get worked up and anxious over not getting sleep and the other things you mentioned.  No one is perfect.  I just want to say we as a community understand what you are going through.  I am sure it will come eventually and you have the added advantage of this forum.  I have walked a mile in your shoes and still am.  Lovely to meet you and please keep in touch.  How you are doing?
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  • JazzguitarJazzguitar Member Posts: 180 Courageous
    edited January 2018
    Not too bad. My heater has gone off. I will call EDF energy today. I am still very forgetful Neville
  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @Jazzguitar Thank you for reply.  Please can I stress you have sent your E mail Address in your post.   Please do not enclose Email Address might get into trouble and I do not wish to see that.  You need some help and I am the sort of old fashioned Gentleman that needs friends like myself.  Made so many do not want to lose any one here because you sent Email with your blog or thread as they call it.  Big tip I have anxiety have forgetful days keep diary page a day .  Use this for planning everything.  From Household duties to shopping days everything really.  Lost with out it.  Need one.  Had no diary last few days terrible reminders all over place.  New one last week. Start to use today already planning new week.  Helps you know not I hope interfering.  Best wishes take care nice to talk to you.
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  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @Jazzguitar   Please can I add I lie in the arms of angels when I sleep who play with my hair.  Even I can sometimes have not too good sleep.  Especially last night into this morning.  New Year Blues or something.  So even myself can not get it right everytime.  Wandering around house till early hours.  Hope that is a comfort.
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  • JazzguitarJazzguitar Member Posts: 180 Courageous
    \\\\\\\thank you. Apologies   for giving my email. I am very forgetful and I cannot sleep. I spent all Christmas 2017 and New Year 2008 Alone. Neville in Plymouth Devon
  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @Jazzguitar Hope you OK. Please can I say am in same on own.  Thank you for this forum over Christmas period.  I am trying to give you some help and support.  I am here to listen give yourself time.  I find every one giving me great advice and love and lots of support.  I find this forum giving me the tools to do the things I can cope with.  I hope and pray you get the same.  We as a community support each other as I have been aware of since joining.  The help is there it is up to you make a decision.  It is hard to deal with I know.  So many people advising you on how to deal with your problems.  I would have never got this from any where else.  Please take care my friend lovely to talk to you am here any time.  I will look out for you.  Best wishes
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  • JazzguitarJazzguitar Member Posts: 180 Courageous
    edited January 2018
    Grea!!! Do you know anything about NHS hearing aids?  I spent all Christmas 2018 alone and very depressed. 
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi Neville

    I have NHS hearing aids.
    I went to my GP who refered me to the NHS provider ( Specsavers in my area )
    It took a couple of weeks for the appointment to come through.
    They did a full hearing test and fitted me with good quality hearing aids and adjusted them to my needs. I have three settings one for when in quiet place , one for driving and one for crowded place. They gave me a supply of batteries and any more they give me for free. If I need further adjustments I just make an appointment, I did have the volume turmed up after about a year

    CR
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  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @Jazzguitar   I do know I should wear one.  I have problems finding one to fit.  Have genetic disorder.  Problem is two clinics in the county one only in a town I do wish to go to.  I was glad to leave and do not want to go back.  Other clinic will not open and only open if have to.  Due to NHS funding.  The best option is look on web.  NHS website have a look.  See Doctors.  The other thing can pay for all sorts of models and types.  All about money.  You can pay all the money you want but if it not what says on the tin.  Wont work.  Best is NHS. I would suggest speak to SCOPE got advisor I believe.  Sorry you are depressed how can I help.?  Remember am the same.  Not good same as you over holiday.  Please can I ask?  Should have come on this forum.  Was here every day got great support and whole new friends.  Got me through it.   I know you are forgetful  I can help remind me of some one I used to know.  So am I by way, the same.  I need to tell you am here, plus if you can you are ill.  I understand that.  A lot of this is the depression, mental health and the lack of sleep.  I understand all that.  Please can I suggest if you keep saying what you are and it goes around in your head it is like a continuous record.  Tell me if I am wrong.  I get this all the time as well.  Read my blogs, pieces and threads some days can not get it out fast tip.  Use this. forum to air grievances, issues, problems.  If I did not have this I would be very ill.  So please use this I am here to listen, sorry long thread blog or whatever.  My lovely support worker who I do not have now.  Said to me to do this use somewhere to write down your thoughts.  So the lovely, amazing people of this forum have to share my feelings, emotions and the rest.  It is helping.  Hope to speak to you soon and I hope you are taking lots of advice from people from this forum on board.  I know I am and it is great fantastic, thank you all.
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  • JazzguitarJazzguitar Member Posts: 180 Courageous
    Thanks for all your advice. Much better than I get from my GP Neville
  • bevvypbevvyp Member Posts: 42 Connected
    Acknowledgement of you're pain is important, this page and everyone on it are the reason I'm still here, I'm dory you were alone over Christmas, an awful time to feel lonely X hopefully you will find dome comfort from all these lovely people xx
  • JazzguitarJazzguitar Member Posts: 180 Courageous
    Thank you for your advice. Neville 
  • JazzguitarJazzguitar Member Posts: 180 Courageous
    Thank you all I will email my GP Neville
  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @Jazzguitar How are you?  I have not spoken for a while to you.  Hope you are OK

    Here to listen, talk, debate chat anything you wish.  I do know reading from your posts regarding your health.

    I hope you are getting support and just let you know am here with the rest of the community if you need to discuss anything.

    Take care great to speak to you
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  • JazzguitarJazzguitar Member Posts: 180 Courageous
    Thank you for all you help. 
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