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They say Three years BUT on the letter it is less than TWO

foxukfoxuk Member Posts: 99 Pioneering
I just got my PIP award and it states clearly it is for three years, BUT immediately afterwards it says that it will be reviewed in the second year. 22 months -  2 years after the assessment was made. NOT the date the award was made let alone when payment starts. Even more smoke and mirrors from HMG?

I was lucky and my award was increased (for which I am grateful) BUT unlike DLA claims the award is not back dated to the claim date. To add insult to injury the increased amount will only be paid from a date a full month after the decision was made. Due to delays that the DWP have decided were the fault of Capita my original claim was made in September BUT the increased amount will only be paid from February

I honestly think that the voters elected a back street used car sales firm to run the country.

I don't have the energy to try to fight this as it could result in loss of what I have been awarded. The whole system stinks.

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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    edited January 2018
    Reviews are always 1 year before the award ends.

    Were you transfering from DLA to PIP? It sounds like you were as you state that your award doesn't start for 1 month afteer the decision. If i'm correct then there's no backpay for those transfering. The reason your award doesn't start till then is because your DLA continues for 4 weeks after.
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  • sue66sue66 Member Posts: 124 Pioneering
    This is the very subject me and my hubby were discussing only yesterday. If you have awards for 3 years  like he has then you should get paid the amounts for a full 3 years, ok i get it , it takes time to fill in another form,send it back then wait for outcome and another assessment date, If this should happen within a few weeks and still a few months left before the 3 yrs is up you should get paid till the date until the 3 full years is up in my opinion..
  • foxukfoxuk Member Posts: 99 Pioneering
    Reviews are always 1 year before the award ends.

    Were you transfering from DLA to PIP? It sounds like you were as you state that your award doesn't start for 1 month afteer the decision. If i'm correct then there's no backpay for those transfering. The reason your award doesn't start till then is because your DLA continues for 4 weeks after.
    If you read the post you will see that I refer clearly to an increase in benefit.
    Yes my DLA does continue BUT at the lower rate. 

    IF I had made a re-claim of DLA when it existed the increase would have run from the date of the request for the form.

    I hope that makes things clearer for you. I was not commenting of whether the process was the same for everyone but making the comment that the process had changed. 
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,258 Disability Gamechanger
    The other side to this is had you lost your award would you expect to have to repay the DLA money from the date of your claim ?
    Had you lt your DLA lapse and then made a claim for PIP the following day then you would have been been paid back pay to the date of your claim

    CR
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  • foxukfoxuk Member Posts: 99 Pioneering
    Had you let your DLA lapse and then made a claim for PIP the following day then you would have been been paid back pay to the date of your claim

    CR
    I hadn't even thought of that. 

    That is IF they pay PIP backdated to the day of the claim. They may have changed that as well.... who knows?

    What got me was the fact that the claim was delayed due to the incompetence of Capita. Their first assessor failed to find either of the two working doorbells and insisted they had used an intercom. They insisted that a red light had shown. The intercom had never been connected to a power supply and the button had been taped over with gaffa tape (one of the unfinished projects of my deceased father). DWP found in my favour.....

    I am more than pleased to get the full whack but in four months that is £960 plus Income support SDA at £62.50 a week.

    Just noticed that if someone gets carer's allowance for someone on SDA 62.50 is stopped for a couple and the Carer gets £32.50 instead. 

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  • foxukfoxuk Member Posts: 99 Pioneering
    The problem with lapsing a claim would be having to manage without any DLA until PIP was awarded. Yes there would be back pay at a higher rate but eating could be a problem.....

    From experience I lapsed a DLA claim as I daftly thought I was able to manage without the money. When I claimed again I had a lot more problems than with my original claim. It shouldn't have, but it did seem to make a big difference to the process, including at the eventual tribunal (where I won).
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,258 Disability Gamechanger
    when claiming PIP from DLA it is treated as a continuing claim.
    If a new claim is made it is backdated to the claim dated
    Any reviewed award starts at the new decision date

    There are two parts to carers Carers Allowance and Carers Premium
    and it depends on other benefits
    If the carer claims ESA then they will have an underlying entitlement to CA but won't receive it
    Carers premium can be paid if there is an IR element to the ESA

    CR

    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
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