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I had my PIP appeal today benefit adviser

dan20ddfdan20ddf Member Posts: 39 Connected
edited January 2018 in PIP, DLA and AA
Hi I've had my appeal today very nervous very anxious i thought I'll get a decision on day but told me it come in post is this cause they can't decide so need more time so is it a good thing or bad thing I had loads of evidence but they can only see the evidence to put forward on the day I applied but I sent a couple of letters from a consultant and doctor saying I need a mobility car for my scooter and he would support me in the application but the doctor at hearing ask loads of questions he even said why don't I go on a diet not knowing the reason of my weights because of my growth hormone injections of a young age but I stated I'm under the weight loss Management Service and I'm trying my best but due to depression it has a knock on effect but I found the doctor rude so I did think of maybe complaining anyone else can add things or advice please

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  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,258 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi dan

    Tribunals are inquisitorial by nature, the doctors job is to question about .your health and medical issues. Sometimes the tribunal schedule is so busy that it doesn't allow time on the day for the decision.
    You should get the decision soon, it is impossible to second guess

    CR

    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • janice_in_wonderlandjanice_in_wonderland Member Posts: 265 Pioneering
    Hi @dan20ddf & CR

    I had my Tribunal today too which was adjourned however the Dr never said a word whilst taking notes which I have no idea what he was thinking or writing

    The disability man was very compassionate and came across as the most kind caring polite respectful man anyone could ever imagine 

    Some Drs are known to come across as very matter of fact, no doubt more so under these circumstances, which could be for a number of reasons however it is no excuse to disrespect anyone no matter what 

    Im surprised you didn't get an answer although there could be a conflict of interest between the judge, disability person both being against Drs decision 

    As I don't the whole story I am unsure how else to reassure you and hope it goes in your favour and you feel satisfied with not just that decision but also the one you make regarding Dr Disappointment ;-) 

    Best of luck 

    JiW
  • dan20ddfdan20ddf Member Posts: 39 Connected
    I lost any way had letter today so very upset I had loads eveedance on mobility scooter also plus crutches 
  • Rach77Rach77 Member Posts: 10 Listener
    Hope it goes in your favour. My partner won his appeal but now dwp have asked for the Sor so unsure how long we have to wait again.

  • dan20ddfdan20ddf Member Posts: 39 Connected
    Not sure if they same me yet rach77 only got 10 points mobility part 
  • Rach77Rach77 Member Posts: 10 Listener
    Will have to wait a while I think 
  • janice_in_wonderlandjanice_in_wonderland Member Posts: 265 Pioneering
    How can anyone lose if they use crutches and a mobility scooter?!
  • dan20ddfdan20ddf Member Posts: 39 Connected
    Exactly @janice and provide a statement from consultant saying need mobility car get around or become house bound 
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,258 Disability Gamechanger
    Unfortunately, what seems obvious to us is not necessarily obvious to others.
    It is very important to fully explain the problems you have, don't assume that assessors or tribunals will make any link to any aid you use or need to use if you don't explain to them

    The use of a scooter is not relevant to PIP but the use of crutches as an aid is.
    If you scored 10 points for moving around this equates to 20-50 metres aided or unaided. If you explained that you could not repeat this distance safely,repeatedly or to an acceptable standard, they may have made the link
     
    I doubt that your consultant telling the tribunal that you need a car went down well

    Not saying that the decision is right, just playing devils advocate

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • stephenjohnstephenjohn Member Posts: 44 Courageous
    Been to appeal twice,they don’t accept a mountain of evidence from doctor or consultance or a fellow who all agreed with my diagnosis,sit whispering to each other behind there desk .....it’s a disgrace ......
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,312 Disability Gamechanger

    Got to agree with @cockneyRebel here. Second guessing is pointless and just feeds your imagination and anxiety. The bench book actually advises that decisions should not be given on the day. That is largely disregarded by most judges but there are specific circumstances where a decision won't be given on the day:

    - risk of abuse/violence if your return to the room for a brief summary of the decision.

    - where tribunals are running behind. Everybody should have an equal chance of being heard rather than postponed or adjourned for lack of time. The time slots are estimates and some hearings will be quicker. Some will be longer, for a very wide variety of reasons. Tribunals are encouraged to avoid delaying hearings as far as possible. Giving everyone a summary decision on the day when the first appeal overruns by 30 minutes is a recipe for chaos and much anxiety if you're the person then delayed waiting for your hearing.

    - IT failures or clerks who can't type. You'd be surprised how often this arises.

    - shortage of clerks to cover more than one room means that not all decisions can be typed and printed by the clerk when they are needed.

    It's very rarely a long debate about the decision. Cases will have been previewed and initial opinions formed before the hearing. Those may be disabused or otherwise during the hearing but at the end it's usually a unanimous decision. A dispute and a majority decision won't delay the summary decision being issued.

    So, most likely, one of the first four.


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