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PIP been reduced

shany
shany Member Posts: 14 Connected
Hi all, 
I was on enhanced mobility rate. I contacted DWP  to state my health had deteriorated. I have now been sent a letter stating that my PIP has been reduced. I don't understand this and what is my next step? 
I would appreciate any advice. 

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  • jamie1965
    jamie1965 Member Posts: 85 Courageous
    I far as I’m aware pip is not a benefit and is based on how your condition affect the way you live not based on the condition it self so unless you have become house bound and there for would not need high rate don’t make sense have they not stated why in the letter 
  • shany
    shany Member Posts: 14 Connected
    Hi Jamie
    I have chronic heart disease and osteoarthritis. I struggle to get around. There is no explanation as to why it's been reduced even though my health is deteriorating. 
  • jamie1965
    jamie1965 Member Posts: 85 Courageous
    Call them and speak to your doctor see if they can give you a report to show that they are wrong and that they are stressing you and they are causing further risk to your health cause if they have made mistake they most likely won’t admit it. Keep us up dated on why they have done this to you and what they gonna do about it I did not think that they could reduce your pip without a review it may be worth while looking at the guidelines on pip at the gov website good luck sorry to hear they have done this to you 
  • shany
    shany Member Posts: 14 Connected
    Thank you for your advice. I appreciate it. I've been so worried and the stress has caused my angina to flare up. 
  • Misscleo
    Misscleo Member Posts: 646 Pioneering
    Im interested in what happens in your case.
    I would have thougjt you would have got more not less.
    They seem to make up the rules on the day???
    Please keep intouch
  • shany
    shany Member Posts: 14 Connected
    I will call DWP and my GP in the morning 
  • jamie1965
    jamie1965 Member Posts: 85 Courageous
    Keep record of everyone you speak to and time and date so they can’t say you have not been in touch if you have a smart phone you can download a free app to record calls when you on the phone with them could be a help to you should they try to deny anything they say or there favourite the call has not recorded so cannot check the conversation you will have it recorded 
  • shany
    shany Member Posts: 14 Connected
    I will definitely do that and keep you posted. 
  • duckett123
    duckett123 Member Posts: 81 Courageous
    they cant reduce you pip unless they give you a medical assessment if they do it must be in writing as to why get a health adviser from your local council to help they can call for you get answers faster than us 
  • shany
    shany Member Posts: 14 Connected
    I contacted DWP to state my health had deteriorated. They did an assessment but despite my health worsening they reduced the PIP. 
  • Matilda
    Matilda Member Posts: 2,610 Disability Gamechanger
    @shany

    This sort of thing often happens - reporting disability getting worse gives assessors an excuse to reduce or remove benefit by lying in their reports.  Have you asked DWP for a copy of the assessor's report and asked for a mandatory reconsideration?
  • shany
    shany Member Posts: 14 Connected
    Hi Matilda 
    I will be asking for a copy of the assessors report first thing in the morning along with M.R. 

  • Misscleo
    Misscleo Member Posts: 646 Pioneering
    Good idea. Keep everything 
  • Pippa_Alumni
    Pippa_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,799 Disability Gamechanger
    So sorry to hear about your experience @shany, that must have been really difficult for you to hear on top of your deteriorating health. Good to hear you're beginning the appeals process, please do let us know if we can offer any guidance.
  • shany
    shany Member Posts: 14 Connected
    Went to citizens advice this morning and they were brilliant. 
    Helped me with the M.R. letter
    I have osteoarthritis, CHD  and Angina.  
    Apparently I can walk 50 metres without stopping! I'm due to go into hospital next wk for an angiogram!
  • shany
    shany Member Posts: 14 Connected
    Well, had my PIP appeal today. Dr did most of the questioning. After a lengthy interrogation he told me that because I hadn't had a knee replacement yet, ( I have osteoarthritis in both legs) that my pain can't be that bad so therefore my appeal was refused. I have Scoliosis and Degenerative Disc Disease and angina. Currently recovering from another heart attack. The decision was made without them seeing my orthopaedic records. 
  • Matilda
    Matilda Member Posts: 2,610 Disability Gamechanger
    Sorry to hear your appeal was refused.  You could ask judge for a statement of reasons and show it to CAB to see if tribunal made an error of law in which case you could appeal to an upper tier tribunal.
  • Yadnad
    Yadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    shany said:
    Well, had my PIP appeal today. Dr did most of the questioning. After a lengthy interrogation he told me that because I hadn't had a knee replacement yet, ( I have osteoarthritis in both legs) that my pain can't be that bad so therefore my appeal was refused. 
    And no doubt if you had have had the replacements they would argue that the pain you used to have will no longer be there owing to the operation.

    You really cannot win with some people.

    They could argue the same in my case in that as I have not had a lung & pancreas transplant the pain and debilitating problems can't be that bad. 
    Try telling my body that!
  • Matilda
    Matilda Member Posts: 2,610 Disability Gamechanger
    Or make a new claim.  If you have to go to tribunal a second time, insist that you cannot walk farther than 20m before you have to stop and rest if that is the case.  Keep a 7 day diary in which you log how far you walk on days you go out and for how long you have to stop before continuing.  Make it clear you can only walk until to 20m before you have to stop and rest for a few minutes.

    Disabilty Rights UK site has a draft diary you can adapt.
  • shany
    shany Member Posts: 14 Connected
    Hi @Matilda
    I had a welfare rights officer from c.a.b. accompany me. He's going to ask for a statement of reasons. Just have to wait 6 weeks to get it and go from there. 
  • shany
    shany Member Posts: 14 Connected
    @Yadnad
    I had a knee replacement 2 yrs ago BUT developed osteoarthritis in the kneecap! So you can see why I'm reluctant to go thru a 2nd knee replacement! 
  • shany
    shany Member Posts: 14 Connected
    My pip for enhanced mobility was reduced to the Standard Rate and was due for review in 2019 BUT what the DWP have done is extended my PIP till 2021. Why would they do this? 
  • Yadnad
    Yadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    shany said:
    My pip for enhanced mobility was reduced to the Standard Rate and was due for review in 2019 BUT what the DWP have done is extended my PIP till 2021. Why would they do this? 

    Quite possibly to ensure that they only pay you the standard rate for another two years whereas if you had appealed now and managed to get through the heartache it causes they may well have had to pay you at the Enhanced rate.
  • shany
    shany Member Posts: 14 Connected
    That makes sense to me now. 
    I think they're just desperate to get their figures down. 
  • woodbine
    woodbine Community Co-Production Group Posts: 5,356 Disability Gamechanger
    @ajones this is a 2 year old thread and the OP hasn't logged in for 18 months.
    I am a person with epilepsy not an epileptic, my illness doesn't define me.
  • davegregson40
    davegregson40 Member Posts: 81 Pioneering
    I would also advise getting medical evidence, PIP is non means-tested, you are entitled if you have a serious health condition that affects your day-to-day living and getting around, definitely contact the DWP and most local authorities have a specific WElfare Rights officer. 
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  • mikehughescq
    mikehughescq Member Posts: 7,536 Disability Gamechanger
    The original thread contains such a multitude of poor advice I issue the it would be better to close it off altogether before creating a new thread for a separate query. 

    This issue keeps reoccurring here. It’s easy enough to deal with. All threads which have no activity for a set period - two months is commonly used elsewhere - can be set to go closed off automatically. 
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