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who can help after lies on pip claim

maid08

for the last two days much of my time has been on phone to various organisations trying to find out who could help over lies on acesser report ?? okay so forget legal aid you wont get it ?county court yes as long as you have full details of person doing assessment ??as its them causing you loss of benefits so they get cash??bonus plus fee??/ you can forget most charity's im afraid so it seems this mess they call looking after disabled peaple will carry on till this gov removed but is it not strange dwp pay someone up to 800 a day to save them max500a month perhaps its the sunms being done that is causeing all this harm WHAT DO YOU THINK

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CockneyRebel

Alas there is little help available
Lies can be argued with facts. the hard part is challenging the hcp's opinions and assumptions

CR

maid08

CockneyRebel said:

Alas there is little help available
Lies can be argued with facts. the hard part is challenging the hcp's opinions and assumptions

CR

afraid so i have the proof but getting either dwp or capita to note is a head wrench ?? even tho its in print ?? one comment was its to late now you should have complained then ahh but i did i said ummm no record they said so i just said shall i send you the paper work ummm no its to late

maid08

maid08 said:

CockneyRebel said:

Alas there is little help available
Lies can be argued with facts. the hard part is challenging the hcp's opinions and assumptions

CR

afraid so i have the proof but getting either dwp or capita to note is a head wrench ?? even tho its in print ?? one comment was its to late now you should have complained then ahh but i did i said ummm no record they said so i just said shall i send you the paper work ummm no its to late

daft i know but her coment on mobility there are four steps from road to path and 3steps to front door my comment was house is 100years old its not ill i am ??obstructive???

CockneyRebel

I understand your angst but forget the assesment
you now have to show that you meet the criteria for an award
Many claimants try to discredit the assessor rather than proving their claim
a complaint about the assessor is a separate matter to proving your claim
focus on what is important, your claim
go to the tribunal and show them that you meet the criteria
The more people that go to tribunal and win will make the gov take notice that the system is flawe

CRd

maid08

CockneyRebel said:

I understand your angst but forget the assesment
you now have to show that you meet the criteria for an award
Many claimants try to discredit the assessor rather than proving their claim
a complaint about the assessor is a separate matter to proving your claim
focus on what is important, your claim
go to the tribunal and show them that you meet the criteria
The more people that go to tribunal and win will make the gov take notice that the system is flawe

CRd

that's all in hand on points i feel i should have and why and on effects i have for each part of assessment ?? its not tribunal its a new acesmant or review i have been to two tribunals on another matter still benifit based and won both that part is no concern to me my concern is liers always has been i do not lie nor do i like being lied to or about ??mental prob i suppose and prob because over 25 yars of dealing with my mothers illness im now here with just myself to deal with mine but its not changed its still a fight for disabled rights

CockneyRebel

no one like lies
unfortunately it seems that DWP don't take into account tribunal results on re assessment

CR

maid08

and lets remmber all those disability groups that state they help that dont or wont today confirmed that AND IM NOT INCLUDEING SCOPE IN THAT AS MY BEST ADVICE WITH MUM CAME FROM HERE

maid08

CockneyRebel said:

no one like lies
unfortunately it seems that DWP don't take into account tribunal results on re assessment

CR

dwp or gov rather take no notice till they have no choice

CockneyRebel

There are so many people that need help and so little resources available
It is not fair or right
but we who are able to fight for justice have to do what others cannot
in many cases we are the best people to fight our battles, with research and knowledge we can win what we are entitled to without taking up the resources that others might need

CR

maid08

CockneyRebel said:

There are so many people that need help and so little resources available
It is not fair or right
but we who are able to fight for justice have to do what others cannot
in many cases we are the best people to fight our battles, with research and knowledge we can win what we are entitled to without taking up the resources that others might need

CR

yep so so true hence today i spent 200 q
uid i cant afford but hopeing will help others if i am correct

Misscleo

Sorry what was the £200 for?
We must srand together as was said.
Your also right about charitys who wont help people.
We need a lisr of them so we know who NOT tk guve our money to.
There must be 1 MP who as a decent streak in them. Can anyine NAME that MP.

maid08

a county court claim against acesser who lied to insure i lost benifits so she gained by finacial means while i lost 5000 cost claim 200 she wil get paperwork shortly she can
t get out of it i have my claim plus her report and its clear lies

maid08

Misscleo said:

Sorry what was the £200 for?
We must srand together as was said.
Your also right about charitys who wont help people.
We need a lisr of them so we know who NOT tk guve our money to.
There must be 1 MP who as a decent streak in them. Can anyine NAME that MP.

i isued court papers against the acesser as her lies to gain cash cost me cash or inother words her intent was to benifit while i lost benifits ?when i get the benifit she cost me i may then take one against capita its a gamble but sol said its clear from my paperwork she lied indeed made up fantasys to feather her pocket so its 5000 im going for

maid08

thanks for youer coment i have read it with intrest the only comment im making is i hold the paperwork to prove she lied as dwp and capita are well aware of ?you may be correct re dm makes the decision but that again is contradictory to paperwork i hold ?so i shall let it proceed as is ohhh the acesser gets a bonus for fails and im pretty sure that her earnings per day will be worth a few lies ??plus a dishonest acesser is just that ??not reg at time of acessmant anyway back to my points as thats what im on at mo and you fail to understand fact is not fiction and facts are what maters im not daft nor am i beting on a loser and were on earthh complain to capita or atos comes from are you really aware of their attitude and replys to complaints as is dwp??again i have the paperwork and i am not intrested in acesser lieing only this one for my case my claim pack was backed by stroke consultands heart spealist arttery consultant mri results long term copd so my pack would not be fiction as the one you mention must have been

maid08

after this coment im not going to bother ?when a docter consultant tell you you are il and see the affect on you and youer life along comes a person who does not know you and makes an opinion on youer ability to act normal and live normal by asking you to pic up sheet paper move youer leg stand up while ignoring what you say writes her own thoughts down ? an opinion gained in 20 mins and in that 20mins ruins youer life and health by lieing ?? they include facts on paper that are completly oppersit on youer claim state you can do this and that without even testing you they then right a report give it to dwp whos decision maker reads it ignoring evidence you supplyed and listens to aceser who is medicaly qualified to decide you are fine ?? and we take it as all evidence is taken rubbish my claim was in 2014 for going into suport grpoup hence acessmant then lo and behold its pip when paperwork is looked at lies are fact not fiction and its time more honesty was given capita and dwp say nope they wont deal with it dispite proof acesser not reg then fight and fight i will ?? ANYWAY ALTHOUGH THIS SITE HELPED WITH MY MOTHER IT SEEMS NOW ADVICE IS not fight as only person wrong is the person posting so best luck those who were lied to and about who have no benifit if you want to learn how i got on facebook chris maidment holding a white pigeon my new review is on 5 3 18 will be fun do not give up fact wins over fiction

redhead53

interesting post from maid08 but in an answer to him it states dm decides no dm is given a report by acesser that report decides the result of a claim after all the dm has no idea about any type of illness nor do they view people so common sense tells you they use a report to make a decision

whistles

Sorry to disagree.
The assessor gave me six points.
The DM changed that to four.

But apparently that's rare so lucky me.

As an aside. I probably wouldn't be bringing up threads where the OP is banned. Especially with loads more to choose from.
(she says replying and contradicting herself)

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whistles

Victoriad said:

What do you MEAN?..... you’ve NOT been banned yet @whistles

I DEMAND an apology from you at once....this is totally unacceptable!

Diplomatic Immunity.
Not human see.

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