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PIP renewal form

Laurastanners4Laurastanners4 Member Posts: 20 Listener
edited April 2018 in PIP, DLA and AA
Pip review /renewal form 

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  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi Laurastanners and welcome

    How can we be of assisstance ?

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • Laurastanners4Laurastanners4 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    Iam waiting on pip renewal form but  i have no changes to my current award ends in Dec
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    It is usual for a PIP award to be reviewed a year in advance of the end date. Once a new decision is made it supercedes your old award from that date.

    There are two types of form that you might receive
    PIP2 Form which is a renewal form
    AR1 form which is the Annual Review

    PIP2 you should complete in the same way as when you first applied for PIP, comlpete with any evidence

    AR1 is a short form asking if your condition is better, the same or worse.
    If your condition has remained the same then that is what your should tick giving brief details.
    If your condition is worse then that is what to tick and supply full backing evidence.

    If you tick the same box you might not be called for f2f assessment but that is not guaranteed

    If you tick the worse box you can expect to be called for assessment

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • Laurastanners4Laurastanners4 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    I've not received any forms for renewal and my pip award ends Dec 6 2018
  • Laurastanners4Laurastanners4 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    My condition will never change. 
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    It usually takes 16 weeks for a renewal so be prepare to bite the bullet if you haven't heard anything by August and ring them

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • Laurastanners4Laurastanners4 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    I cannot cope with another tribunal it stresses me, my condition is for life,it will never change,  under the circumstances i got awarded lowest rate of pip due to not being able to travel unfamiliar distances on my own.
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    The good thing is that now you know what is needed, filling in the form should be easier. You have also found this community and we will help you with it so don't worry

    CR
     
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • redhead53redhead53 Member Posts: 35 Connected
    a review results in a full assessment not just the things you pointed out are worse so its a new claim anyway
  • 18272laura18272laura Member Posts: 8 Listener
    Still no review forms 
  • 18272laura18272laura Member Posts: 8 Listener
    Sorry my letter when my pip was approved does not mention about being reviewed, it only says I will get a letter 14 weeks before award ends and I can reapply if I want. I want a review not to reapply and start the process from the start again
  • Laurastanners4Laurastanners4 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    Sorry my letter when my pip was approved does not mention about being reviewed, it only says I will get a letter 14 weeks before award ends and I can reapply if I want. I want a review not to reapply and start the process from the start again
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,979 Disability Gamechanger
    Some awards don't have reviews 1 year before the award is due to end. Those that don't have reviews will be contacted 3 months before the award is due to end. Mostly those that were awarded by a Tribunal will have this, rather than a review. It's basically the same because a review has to go through the same process anyway. With a review, if you're not successful and a decision doesn't go in your favour your money will stop 4 weeks after the decision. This wouldn't happen when they contact you 3 months before the award is due to end. So if you're not awarded then you would have had your money for longer.  In a way, you're better off not having the review 1 year before in my opinion.

    Review forms.....don't ever be fooled by the shortened versions of the form.
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  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    My condition will never change. 
    Neither will any of mine but they still insisted that they might - hence a review every 2 years. Ironically they were right They changed my awards from Enhanced Care & Mobility to 0 points at all!!
  • Laurastanners4Laurastanners4 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    Wow that's awful 
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    Wow that's awful 
    They did that three times in the past 5 years - I then gave up and didn't bother to argue the toss with them.
  • Laurastanners4Laurastanners4 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    You shouldn't give up 
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    You shouldn't give up 
    The stress was making me ill and at 70 I dreaded the though of having to go through these face to face assessments every 2 years for the rest of my life.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 7,131 Disability Gamechanger
    Have you ever at any point specified in the form that your condition and the consequences will never change and you therefore want to ask for an ongoing award? If you haven’t then they will airways go for a short award. 
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    edited August 2018
    Mike if that question was not directed at me I apologise for butting in.
    If it was, the answer is a clear no. It should be pretty obvious to any medically qualified individual that you do not get better and the impact does not reduce with someone that has Chronic Pancreatitis. It will eventually go one of two ways. Pancreatic Cancer or pain that gets more unbearable as the years go by. Also someone with a proven back injury both at the top and the bottom of the spine will not improve either. Finally with someone that has lost 40% of brain function, who already gets a lifetime award from the DWP and has been assessed by DWP appointed doctors isn't going to re-grow the damaged parts.
     

    The above is just a snapshot of what I put on the claim forms.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 7,131 Disability Gamechanger
    Twas aImed at the original poster.
  • debbiedo49debbiedo49 Member Posts: 2,906 Disability Gamechanger
    So just to clarify, if you get awarded pip at tribunal your pip ends at the end of your award? Then you have to make a new claim? But if you get pip the usual way then it’s a renewal? I’m confused. 
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  • Peasmold_01Peasmold_01 Member Posts: 144 Pioneering
    If you win at Tribunal they will give you the length of time the award is valid for, 3,4,5 years etc  About a year to six months before the end of that period of award, DWP will contact you. Now,, if your original assessment states that your condition is not likely to improve after 9 months, it is almost certain that any new claim by you will be a box ticking exercise. That is the advice I was given by my legal advisor, who specialises in Disability Rights. 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 7,131 Disability Gamechanger
    Nope again I’m afraid. You can just tick the boxes but as everyone on here has found out that will result in it being deemed that you’ve provided no evidence of no change and thus you’ll be referred for another face to face. Only means-tested benefits offer short cuts to renewal. Disability benefits have never offered any such shortcuts.
  • Laurastanners4Laurastanners4 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    My letter states that I will be contacted 14weeks before award ends which is Dec 6 2018 
  • Laurastanners4Laurastanners4 Member Posts: 20 Listener
    I won at a tribunal 
  • debbiedo49debbiedo49 Member Posts: 2,906 Disability Gamechanger
    I must re read my letter thanks. I got two years award, almost one year backdated. So really only got one year award to wait. 
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  • 18272laura18272laura Member Posts: 8 Listener
    I wish I knew what was going on iam worried about when my pip ends
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,979 Disability Gamechanger
    I wish I knew what was going on iam worried about when my pip ends
    You'll need to take a look at the decision letter or ring PIP and ask. Reviews are done one year before the award ends. 
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  • 18272laura18272laura Member Posts: 8 Listener
    I've had a look at decision letter My letter says I will be contacted by letter 14 weeks before award ends and I can reapply if I want to, its not a case if I want to I do not want the stress of reapplying again when nothing has changed should I not get review forms as I won at a tribunal 
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 7,131 Disability Gamechanger
    You have the option now of challenging the length of the award.
  • debbiedo49debbiedo49 Member Posts: 2,906 Disability Gamechanger
    @mikehughescq are you talking about m r ? Would that not affect the whole decision again?
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  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 7,131 Disability Gamechanger
    Only if there’s a genuine risk to the whole decision. 
  • debbiedo49debbiedo49 Member Posts: 2,906 Disability Gamechanger
    So you just ask for the length of award to be reconsidered?
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  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 7,131 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes. Doesn’t mean that’s what they’ll do but that’s what you need to do.
  • 18272laura18272laura Member Posts: 8 Listener
    Had to reapply for pip again 
  • 18272laura18272laura Member Posts: 8 Listener
    Make an advance claim before my active claim ends on December 6 2018 
  • 18272laura18272laura Member Posts: 8 Listener
    Waiting on the forms for pip seeing my Geneticist tomorrow see if he can help with a supporting letter and fill in the form for a bus 🚍 pass under the mental health act certificate and learning disability certificate 
  • sue66sue66 Member Posts: 124 Pioneering
    It is usual for a PIP award to be reviewed a year in advance of the end date. Once a new decision is made it supercedes your old award from that date.

    There are two types of form that you might receive
    PIP2 Form which is a renewal form
    AR1 form which is the Annual Review

    PIP2 you should complete in the same way as when you first applied for PIP, comlpete with any evidence

    AR1 is a short form asking if your condition is better, the same or worse.
    If your condition has remained the same then that is what your should tick giving brief details.
    If your condition is worse then that is what to tick and supply full backing evidence.

    If you tick the same box you might not be called for f2f assessment but that is not guaranteed

    If you tick the worse box you can expect to be called for assessment

    CR Annual is yearly so what will my hubby receive then as he was given PIP for 3 yrs. so will he receive the PIP 2 then? You telling me he has to answer the same questions all over again and as many all over again even though his no better  with Rheumatoid Arthritis  and he could lose it all next time even if he answers the questions the same?

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