Assessors reports for PIP claims

Matilda

Every case is different, Lynne.  But at my appeal the only medical evidence I had was from 19 years earlier when I first claimed DLA, though I do have a degenerative disease that causes disability.  My most important evidence was my own oral testimony on the day and I won my appeal.

You can request your medical records from your GP surgery.  This is a legal right and i think it's free.  Scope Helpline could give you more info about this.

LynneR

Thanks the last tribunal I was my husband's representative as he is dyslexic I'd done the writing though all the words were his and he also has a speech impediment which is much worse when he's nervous. The chairman took a dislike to me. Was very sarcastic and didn't allow me to speak. The tribunal was a farce, he got the care points back but he couldn't answer the questions about his being able to plan and follow an unfamiliar route as they threw a hypothetical question at him. They said to imagine we were in Cardiff IKEA and I got a phone call to say my great aunt Maude had been taken ill. So I was supposed to take the car leaving him alone in Cardiff. He just couldn't answer it because never in a million years would I do that. They led him, by questions, to say he would find customer services and ask for a taxi. There are so many things wrong with that, for it to be used as evidence on his ability to plan and follow an unfamiliar route is farcical. I was warned not to speak.

Waylay

@GoForIt @Yadnad @Username_removed I agree that with many people the forms and evidence aren't up to spec (although this is often because people have no idea what the DWP wants). Mine, however, was well-written, had good evidence, anecdotes, the whole shebang. The assessor didn't read my forms or FME. Neither did the CM. Full of massive errors (no self harm, no specialist mental health input, no specialist input for chronic pain - all false, all written in forms with FME to back them up. Ridiculous.

Matilda

My tribunal tried to lead me (it's one of tribunals' tactics) but I wouldn't be led, stuck to my original answers.

Susan3696

Just received my acknowledgement letter from the appeals court and am curious as to why it was sent to Cardiff when I sent it to Bradford? Any one know? X

Matilda

I think there's a central processing office who then send completed forms to local area offices to deal with.

Susan3696

Aww thank you Matilda. Was curious, seems daft though. X

[Deleted User]

Username_removed said:

Not quite sure why you would post a link from which I already quoted in my previous post. Does kinda suggest you didn’t read the opening sentence of the very thing you posted! 

ohh sorry  i posted it to show you i take note and also am aware of select comittees job and intrest in facts but if you concider 200.000plus haveing prob with claims well i have a big one in that lies on forms by hcp are getting worse

brentus

Received the Dwp reply to my MR request recently,the assessor manipulated my answers on several occasions.I was asked how far i could walk. I replied i didnt know a specific distance so she asked for how long i coukd walk,i replied i dont know but not for long,she asked 'for a minute?' I replied no. That was it,in the report she reported i said i could walk for just under a minute. Big difference,as i didnt say that. She said i was using non prescribed crutches,implying i didnt need them,even though i told her the doctor said I'd need them for rest of my life and only didnt prescribe them because i already had some.I wont waffle on anymore sorry,just wanted to give examples of how you can lose your benefits purley down to how evil the assessor is ??????.Obviously in the job to get people off benefits.

susan48

Think this thread needs closed due to the negativity 

Be nice to each other for god sake!

Matilda

As I've said above, there is the 'ignore' option.  People can then be blissfully unaware of posts by negative people.

susan48

@[usernameremoved], the point I was making by closing this down was to stop all the bickering. Simple.

If your happy to continue to do so then that’s your choice but there are others on this forum that don’t want or need to read this negative stuff.

And before you say, I know I don’t have to read it or I can use the ignore button but remember there are new members joining this forum all the time and what message does negative post say.

[Deleted User]

Username_removed said:

@sweet the reason I took issue with a post of yours is because you said

“... most that have acessmants find that the person doing it has lied that cannot be disputed”.

In response to that I said

”It is incorrect to say “most”. The Work and Pensions committee took evidence on the point and had the largest number of responses in their existence. Even they said “For the majority of claimants the assessments work adequately”. Please don’t confuse posts on a forum with fact.”

You have since posted a link to the very document I quoted from and contributed to and yet you persist in insisting it proves your point. It does not. It says, as per the above, “For the majority the assessments work adequately.” It’s wholly unclear to me why you would persist in arguing it says something it patently doesn’t. 

Am I saying all is well? No. Indeed I provided numerous examples of exactly what’s wrong with the process in my submission. What I am saying is that, in this context, to suggest that “most” assessors lie is not only wrong but demonstrably so using the very document you cite. 

@Matilda offers good advice in respect of the ignore button although it hasn’t served her well when she’s posted on threads where others have already posted advice which wholly contradicts hers. So using the ignore button has unforeseen consequences too. 

@susan48 I see no reason to close the thread unless it veers off topic again. Nobody, bar one person, has attacked personalities or individuals. This is a disagreement on a factual matter. Provided it’s not abusive and doesn’t breach forum rules I see no difficulty with people disagreeing. That’s the nature of discussion. It would be very boring if we all agreed all of the time. How we disagree is what matters.

Where I do take issue is with @GoForIt and that is for two reasons. 

1) They hijacked a thread to post a petition. The petition was absolutely on topic. Their reaction to more than one person commenting on the nature of the petition and their advocacy of it was, shall we say, unhelpful.

2) Went out of their way to locate my wall and post personal comments on it. I have deleted but not reported these. I will report them next time. On a forum where any number of people could be on the spectrum I wonder how many people would feel it appropriate to target an online personality for criticism and comment? By all means disagree with a post or an issue but attacking the person/personality can never be acceptable.

I have no knowledge of this person nor them me so I cannot comment on their personality and nor would I wish to. Their actions however speak for themselves. 

just a  min here you seem to be implying i am thick and you know better i answered this post in such that are we here to argue with each other NOW you seem intent on acting as if i am in the wrong ?you seem to be very negative if others comment perhaps you should concider chilling out before you answer your tone to me is not nice nor needed

Matilda

@sweet

I think you've missed the point about my use of the 'ignore' button.  I have no objection to others posting points of view that differ from my own, either before or after my own posts.  The number of people I have ignored is very tiny indeed and is confined to those who appear to think that their opinions are the only ones that count, to put it no stronger.  I simply have no interest in reading their posts.

Yadnad

sweet said:

most that have acessmants find that the person doing it has lied that cannot be disputed,To allow them to get away with it time after time just gives more stress to the person claiming

Sorry but you are way off the mark. The vast majority of PIP applications, assessments & decisions are fully accepted by the claimant as being satisfactory.

It is only a very small percentage of claimants who find that things go wrong.

Your suggestion that 'most' claimants have problems is therefore exaggerated and wrong
 

[Deleted User]

so my post needs monitering because i disagree ummmmm but rudeness and ignorance to others is fine

[Deleted User]

Username_removed said:

Yawn. With all due respect please don’t just make it up as you go along to perpetuate a disagreement which is over. The use of the word “most” was demonstrably incorrect. No-one in the entire thread has suggested you need monitoring. Nor has anyone been rude to you. Feel free to post the direct quotes from anywhere in the thread. 

If ignorance, whatever that might mean, to others is an issue then they are free to raise it but, given that no-one else has mentioned such a thing, I’m not sure why you feel the need to raise an imaginary thing on behalf of others who haven’t raised it.

yawnnnnnn      ohh dear you are showing the true side how childish are you  now you have shown your ignorance ??as to monitered my post stated it went to moniter i wonder mike are you a moderater is that how you can be so bad in your attitude      it seems i may be the third poster in tthree days treated like below your ability as an exspert

[Deleted User]

there is a post respect ??i note it is ignored by you perhaps you could go on and exsplain wehy you seem to lack it

[Deleted User]

another post waiting to be approved hahaha are you and yadd moderaters mr [removed by moderator]

[Deleted User]

Username_removed said:

IAS - but definitely not ASOS. They sell clothes

demeaning mike to point out someones spelling is both child like and rude and with an emo disgusting