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PIP POINTS

Hi, good evening.
Does anyone know how pip points are calculated. Eg can points be added up for preparing food. Like 4 for using aids and then add 3 for having supervision
Does anyone know how pip points are calculated. Eg can points be added up for preparing food. Like 4 for using aids and then add 3 for having supervision
Ddd
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Then you need prompting again 2.
So im theory you would add all these above you would have 6 points. But if you then need supervision or assistance that would give you 4 points.
And then you don't get points from 1 f if you don't fit within this (Cannot prepare and cook food. 8 points.)
But if you fit in this (need supervision or assistance) this is your highest scoring descriptor.. So therefore you will only get the 4points for 1 e even though you scored in the above. You would only score one set of point, I hope this makes sense to you.
1 b. Needs to use an aid or appliance to be able to either prepare or cook a simple meal. 2 points
1 c. Cannot cook a simple meal using a conventional cooker but is able to do so using a microwave. 2 points
1 d. Needs prompting to be able to either prepare or cook a simple meal. 2 points
1 e. Needs supervision or assistance to either prepare or cook a simple meal. 4 points.
1 f. Cannot prepare and cook food. 8 points.
I created one of the campaign election video for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
You can see the video here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY
Unfortunately the HCP software doesn’t allow for this and also doesn’t take account of CPIP/2054/2015, which says that a claimant can satisfy PIP descriptors if they only apply for part of the day. Thus in 4 years I’ve yet to see this applied and have only read of colleagues being able to push this through as an argument.
For example, using aids to prepare food is one descriptor, 2 points, and needing someone to help prepare food is a different descriptor, 4 points.I claimed 4, DWP awarded 2, tribunal awarded 4.
Yes it is complex - no wonder people get confused over these fiddly 'descriptors'.
I created one of the campaign election video for Labour, and Jeremy Corbyn,
This is a new version of Emeli Sande, Hope "You Are Not Alone
You can see the video here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5o8hRHh9IY
So, with preparing food, if you meet two descriptors, one with 2 points, the other with 4, it is the descriptor with 4 points that applies, and only that one descriptor. You cannot add descriptors together within a category.
Descriptor 1F measures the ability to prepare and cook food. A claimant can only satisfy 1F if they can neither prepare nor cook food (even with assistance or supervision). If they cannot do one of these, even with assistance or supervision, but can do the other then one of the other descriptors will apply.
Claimants who can prepare food but cannot cook it, would not satisfy this descriptor.
For the ESA claim I read the ESA50 form to mean that I could only describe the problems that I was having that related to the condition that was written on the sick note. Obviously the sick note would have had to run to three pages to get the rest on. I pointed out to the DWP after I failed that it was because they didn't have the full story. I cited the ESA50 and they didn't believe what I was saying, then after looking at it the DWP agreed that the wording was not clear. Eventually they understood the whole of the issues and gave me the Support Group for 3 years. Shortly after that they revised the ESA50 and the notes attached to it.
Likewise with the PIP forms. I filled the first one out for all of my issues including mental health. Unfortunately the assessor didn't believe a word that I had anything wrong with me. For the second and third PIP forms I put all of the problems down except any that had a bearing to my mental health as there was no point trying to push water uphill. For PIP I had Enhanced for both mobility and Care but alas lost it all after the third review earlier this year.