Pip change to circumstances

steve0306

in June I phoned up pip (dwp) to tell them about  
change in circumstances .
I have since filled in the form and set it back early  July ,
since then I have been put on a extra tablet 
and am know seeing a psycholical well-being  person 
do I phone up pip or just wait till I see the assessment 
help will be great full 
thanks 

Chloe_Alumni

Hi @steve0306 and a warm welcome to the community! I would wait for a new assessment a there is already one being sorted for you- although I would see what others think as well. Please do have a look around the community and let me know if there is anything else that I can do

steve0306

Many thanks for the reply , 

wilko

Hi. Steve0306, you will have a face to face acessment for change in circumstances, if your conditions have worsened and you meet the current descriptors for PIP to give you enhanced award for daily care and mobility your award will remain the same. Have you done a self test of PIP to see how you would, will fair in the acessment.  And don't forget to request a copy of your acessment a few days afterwards as this will give you a good Indecation of what your award may be. 

Matilda

PIP is about how your conditions affect your daily living and mobility.  Additional medication and a psychological consultation might not make any significant difference.  Wait and see if they do.  Your present disabilities have to have been present for three months and expected to last a further nine months to be considered long term rather than passing.

steve0306

It was my physio who started  it of , he wrote to my doctor saying my walking has got worst and I need help with my panic attacks and depression, I had a stroke 4 years ago ,so I let pip know about my change 
but since I filed the pip form in am now on sertraline for depression and panic attacks, 
and I have a medical letter from my 
psychological officer about my metal health was I didn’t have when I sent the pip form in 

steve0306

Mental health is a big part of pip now Matilda said:

PIP is about how your conditions affect your daily living and mobility.  Additional medication and a psychological consultation might not make any significant difference.  Wait and see if they do.  Your present disabilities have to have been present for three months and expected to last a further nine months to be considered long term rather than passing.

Chloe_Alumni

Hi @steve0306, you're right- mental health is a big part of PIP and which award you get. I believe @Matilda was referring to the two components that PIP is assessed in (daily living and mobility). The reason why medication may not make a significant difference is because PIP assessed how the conditions affect your life, rather than the diagnosis or medication you have been given. However, by having more difficulties to walk this may mean you can't walk the distances you previously could or cannot do this safely- this being a reason your PIP score could go up. Also, in terms of panic attacks, this will affect your life as well and therefore would be worth notifying the DWP about.

steve0306

My last review I got hi allowance for the living due to my spasticity on myleft arm 
and low for the mobility I could walk 25 m then 
now my physio said in he’s report 5 save metres with a aid 
plus he mention severe panic attacks of the thought of going outside ,
thats when the doctor phone me up to but me on sertraline tablets for anxiety and  referred me to a psychological central 

Chloe_Alumni

That makes sense @steve0306, like I said, it is about the impact caused by conditions. I wish you the very best of luck with your claim and please do keep us updated!

steve0306

Thanks again my pip form was returned July 12th
so hope I will hear soon about my assessment 
i have my  psychology report from my meetings  now , which I will show at my assessment I didn’t have that when I return the form 

Yadnad

steve0306 said:

It was my physio who started  it of , he wrote to my doctor saying my walking has got worst and I need help with my panic attacks and depression, I had a stroke 4 years ago ,so I let pip know about my change 
but since I filed the pip form in am now on sertraline for depression and panic attacks, 
and I have a medical letter from my 
psychological officer about my metal health was I didn’t have when I sent the pip form in 

The purpose of putting you on Sertraline is to reduce the impact of depression. If the medication is now working then the impact will have become less intrusive which then would possibly reduce the points being awarded. 

I have been on that medication for a number of years and must say that it actually makes very little difference to my depressive moods. I am on 150mg a day.

Yadnad

Chloe_Scope said:

Hi @steve0306, you're right- mental health is a big part of PIP and which award you get. 

Not to sure that I agree with you. It may well be the case put out by the DWP but the reality is that most mental health issues and the impact it causes is one of the hardest to prove.

In ATOS camp they have a habit of destroying the credibility of the claimant's claims by coming up with their version of a Mental Health Assessment. Unfortunately many like myself scored 0 for mental health in PIP because I didn't rock in the chair, had good eye contact etc etc - in fact 14 cut and paste reasons why I am not suffering from a mental health condition.

Given that a diagnosis of the condition is largely a self assessment test carried out by the patient/claimant themselves it is no wonder that the DWP and the assessors are sceptical when such a condition is claimed to exist.

In my case I didn't want to argue with them - the have their opinion and I have mine.