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veeveeveevee Member Posts: 2 Listener
edited August 2018 in PIP, DLA and AA
Hi..i have received the pip form to fill in ..i don't understand why when I've got it till Sept 2019 please help its worrying me to death avin to go thro all this again ..


  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @veevee   Pleased to meet you welcome.

    Sorry you have to apply again for PIP. Many members of the community are experiencing the same.  I am sure they will be gladly offer you advice and lots of support.  I am one.

    Having just been through it all.

    May I suggest have a look at our benefit advice on Talk about PIP. Lots of information. Help and support.

    Consider talking to CAB.  Helps and is useful with form filling. Wealth of knowledge and expertise.

    We are a friendly supportive community.  Here to help and advise. Plenty of new friends.

    Understand the worry about the award time. I would suggest getting some support with this.  Who is supporting you.?

    Hope that helps.

    Ask the community anything some one will know. Ready to listen.

    Please take care

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  • Liam_AlumniLiam_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 1,113 Pioneering
    Hi @veevee,

    Welcome to Scope's online community! It's great to have you on board.

    @thespiceman has given lots of useful tips above, which I hope you find helpful. You may also find our page on PIP of particular interest, too.

    I've also moved this post into our dedicated PIP, DLA and AA category, so other members of our community can offer advice and support.

    I hope this helps. If you have any questions then please do get in touch!
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    veevee said:
    Hi..i have received the pip form to fill in ..i don't understand why when I've got it till Sept 2019 please help its worrying me to death avin to go thro all this again ..
    You have to be assessed and re-assessed at regular intervals. The average is about every 3 years. 
    When looking at a re-assessment the DWP want to start the system at least 12 months before the end date so that a decision can be made before the current award runs out.
    Unfortunately what is happening is that claimants are finding that if their award goes down it takes effect from the decision date and not the end date of the previous award.

    So yes you will start the process all over again in September 2018

  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    veevee said:
    Hi..i have received the pip form to fill in ..i don't understand why when I've got it till Sept 2019 please help its worrying me to death avin to go thro all this again ..

    PIP awards are reviewed 1 year before they are due to end. Unfortunately you will need to fill in the form and return it by the date stated. Don't forget to send your evidence with the form as they rarely contact anyone for this. If more time is needed to return the form, ring DWP and they will extend the time and give you an extra 14 days. Good luck.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,924 Disability Gamechanger

    1 - Identify those activities you have any kind of issue with.

    2 - Identify whether the issue is that you can’t do the activity at all; can’t do it reliably, can’t do it repeatedly; can’t do it safely or in a reasonable time. If any one of these apply to an activity then you can’t do it at all and it’s okay to say so. However, as well as ticking the box saying you either can’t do it all need help or aids, remember to say which one(s) of the above apply.

    3 - have a copy of the PIP points scoring system in front of you. The questions in the form don’t match the points scoring so it’s as well to be aware of this.

    4 - For every activity you think you score points you need to think of 2 or 3 recent examples of incidents when you tried to do that activity. Describe in detail the what, when, where, who witnessed, what happened next etc. Don’t skimp on detail. It’s often better to type it up in Word first rather than write in the form. If it won’t fit then add extra sheets, remembering to put your name, NINO and the question to which the answer relates on each sheet. Alternatively, reduce the font and cut and paste the Word answer into the form.

    5 - Use the extra information section to describe your conditions  in detail; the specifics of the symptoms and especially how they interact. 

    Also use it to spell out that you want an ongoing award and explain why e.g. your condition is degenerative, you’ve done all the adapting you’re going to do etc. If you don’t specifically ask for an ongoing award you will get a short one. 

    6 - Assuming your diagnoses are not in question and ditto the prognosis then ask yourself what gap in your evidence does medical evidence fill in terms of points scoring? If you can’t answer that then consider not sending it in. 10 reports all saying the same thing are no better than 1. Volume doesn’t win you PIP. Clarity and focus does.

    7 - Whilst PIP ask for the form back in 4 weeks they will grant a 2 week extension without question if you ask. However, there is no actual deadline for deadline in the legislation as the deadline can be extended if reasonable and what could be more reasonable than having a medical condition which slows you down. Ask for an extension as a reasonable adjustment under EA 10 if applicable. 

    8 - By all means get an advice service to do this but if they don’t do most of the above then you’re better off doing it yourself. 

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